From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Oct 25 18:33:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3412B37B403 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6972 invoked by uid 1165); 26 Oct 2001 01:33:18 -0000 Date: 25 Oct 2001 18:33:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:33:18 -0700 From: Seth Kingsley To: Alan DuBoff Cc: Mitch Collinsworth , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: want advice Message-ID: <20011025183318.A5179@fluff.meowfishies.com> References: <200110252141.RAA29334@philotas.hosting.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200110252141.RAA29334@philotas.hosting.pacbell.net>; from aland@softorchestra.com on Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 02:41:35PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/5C413B08 X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: F772 5D24 02B4 D233 90F5 080F 0F50 3298 5C41 3B08 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [Moved to -chat] On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 02:41:35PM -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote: > On Thursday 25 October 2001 01:39 pm, Mitch Collinsworth wrote: >=20 > > If you're reading this list in order to look for a > > job, I suspect you've just alerted a lot of hiring managers to keep > > their distance from you. Myself included. >=20 > I have quite a bit of tolerance for people posting to a list, but in the = case=20 > where the poster is so clueless, it's an annoyance. I wonder why the list= =20 > allows a bulkmailer to post to the list? What did you hope to accomplish? Do you respond to all of your spam with angry letters and clever insults? Bulkmailers are probably allowed specifically for this list because a lot of (relevant) job offerings are cross-posted to this list. This isn't the only applicable forum for FreeBSD-related jobs. > I have obviously offended you and possibly others on the list, and for th= at I=20 > do appologize. I doubt that most of the people reading these lists would take this kind of thing as personally as you seem to. I didn't find your post offensive, I found it to be a complete waste of time/space/energy, both in your futile attempt at "knocking some sense" into this person, and in my having read your useless banter. > And yes, let it be a message to all hiring managers who might read this. = I do=20 > my job, at minimum, and I get my work done in a prompt, and effecient man= nor.=20 > And quite frankly, my work speaks for itself as do all of the people that= I=20 > have worked for in the past, who will gladly tell you about the type work= =20 > I've completed for them. Most of these people were glad to tolerate my=20 > occasional behavior in light of the fact that I have consistently out=20 > performed most of my colleagues and delivered my projects to them. One of the things that I most admire about Open-Source developers, especially those involved with the FreeBSD project, is humility. You seem to be lacking in this quality, in addition to tactfulness. So basically what you're trying to prove is that you're uncommunicative and don't work well in groups? > I see you're from Cornell, most likely using your alumni account. I wasn'= t so=20 > fortunate to spend time at a great university like that. Instead I've bee= n=20 > sweating, writing code that runs on systems 24x7, from devices as small a= s a=20 > cell phone to systems as large as a mainframe, but centered around the mi= cro=20 > computer. Whatever needs to be done, I find a way to do it to make up for= my=20 > lack of "formal" education. This can also be considered a short coming th= at=20 > my skills are able to make up for. Now you're attacking the respondent based purely on his email address? And when did this become a personal advertisement? You seem to be on a personal crusade to prove that your experience and conviction outweigh having no credientials; this is a noble cause, but you're going about it in completely the wrong way. --=20 || Seth Kingsley || Meow Meow Fluff Fluff || sethk@meowfishies.com || || rndcontrol -s 0 || --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE72L1eD1AymFxBOwgRAjbXAJ9XgHWUDbTM3H5+5nvAvXZUgXvU5wCfVHUd 1ghA+HnuUeIbDZObBgofTPU= =RJIi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message