From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Mar 17 4: 0:53 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15F537B401 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 04:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF1C443FBD for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2003 04:00:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from snowfall@gmx.co.uk) Received: (qmail 30813 invoked by uid 0); 17 Mar 2003 12:00:45 -0000 Received: from tnt2-39.quicksilver.net.nz (HELO COMPUTER.gmx.co.uk) (202.89.134.39) by mail.gmx.net (mp019-rz3) with SMTP; 17 Mar 2003 12:00:45 -0000 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030317230131.034ddeb0@213.165.64.20> X-Sender: 6803933@213.165.64.20 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 00:00:42 +1200 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org From: Craig Carey Subject: Re: Blocking addresses of non-spammers; bug reporting Cc: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <20030317091705.GA1720@gothmog.gr> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030317174305.03f7abc0@213.165.64.20> <200303131013.h2DADL386993@flip.jhs.private> <200303131013.h2DADL386993@flip.jhs.private> <5.2.0.9.2.20030316095750.035d3748@213.165.64.20> <5.2.0.9.2.20030317174305.03f7abc0@213.165.64.20> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 03\03\17 11:17 +0200 Monday, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: ... > >This post has reached freebsd-advocacy fine. What black-holing are >you talking about? I don't see why you would be so persistent in >claiming that your messages are blackholed in one of the lists that >are hosted by the mail server that is allegedly blackholing your >posts. . . > After seeing that message (I now reply to) I tried an ISP e-mail address I have. Nothing came back, suggesting a few things including this. FreeBSD's system is deleting a "www." and then using information after that step. research@ijs.co.nz -> 202.89.128.19 -> www.qsi.net.nz -> qsi.net.nz -> No IP number It might have started when my ISP disabled some of the lookups. I don't know. ----------------------------------- http://network-tools.com/default.asp?prog=express&Netnic=whois.arin.net&host=ijs.co.nz IP address: 202.89.128.19 Host name: ijs.co.nz Alias: www.qsi.net.nz ----------------------------------- http://network-tools.com/default.asp?prog=express&Netnic=whois.arin.net&host=202.89.128.19 IP address: 202.89.128.19 Host name: www.qsi.net.nz ----------------------------------- Now I arbitrarily strip off the "www.": http://network-tools.com/default.asp?prog=express&Netnic=whois.arin.net&host=qsi.net.nz Error: Host not found Host name: qsi.net.nz I hadn't noticed that my ISP has new hostnames that don't have IP numbers ----------------------------------- So it could be a "DNS lookups on unnecessarily edited hostnames fail" type of problem. -- The tests I was doing and did today, was to send e-mail to: The mail was sent from: <-- mail came back <-- mail did not come back My ISP's DNS server: soa1.qsi.net.nz It is too early for me to comment on that (e.g. it still seems that FreeBSD is losing the e-mail. ----------------------------------- At 03\03\17 06:03 +0200 Monday, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- ... >No, the postmaster has nothing to do with the web interface of the PR. > >> The same was not found by me in the bugs, and www, mailing lists. > >/me puts bugmaster@FreeBSD.org hat on > >The web interface is disabled because it was abused by a troll to fill >our gnats database with tons of bogus "PRs". I've installed gnats at >home and have been trying to find a reasonable chunk of time to change >the submission process for the web form to require a verification step >that would make it an awful lot more difficult for bogus PRs to enter >the databasee but be relatively easy for legitimate submitters who are >just being helpful with developing FreeBSD. > >If you can help with code or ideas towards this end, I'd be *very* >glad to get any sort of assistance. ... I request that your name go onto the bug reporting webpage. To disable an attack might require, e.g. that the user copy off letters or digits, from a GIF showing into a form. I am guessing that it is easier to write software to delete the effect of an attack. Craig Carey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message