From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 22:59:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7C716A4CE for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp120.tiscali.dk (smtp120.tiscali.dk [62.79.79.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23AC43D1D for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:59:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from niel@telia.com) Received: from localhostsu (47.ppp144.rsd.worldonline.se [213.204.144.47]) by smtp120.tiscali.dk (8.12.6p3/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i1M6xhmK064222 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 2004 07:59:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from niel@telia.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Niel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:58:13 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200402211258.13361.niel@telia.com> Subject: I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple to use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:59:52 -0000 Written 21st january 2004. I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple to use? I have a dream, of a help/manual/doc system, which is simple, and yet=20 comprehensive to use. When I need help to some question, when using freebsd, I often get very=20 confused, and cannot find out how to do it. Often I find some manual, but then pages and pages start scrolling past m= y=20 eyes, and soon I am very confused, and my brain looses track of what it=20 trying to do. Often there is some tecnical abbreviations mixed into the=20 explanation, which we do not know at all, what is! There exist a very comprehensive documentation for freebsd, man, faq etc.= So=20 far, that is very good. Leave it as it is. That is okay for later reading= =2E But what I am searching for, is very short manuals for every topic and=20 program. How to install it, where the files are sitting, how to set-up. Just a very simple example, for just to get a basic program running. And = also=20 a very basic example for using the program, so you at least are getting i= t up=20 and running. Then you can later experiment with more complicated items og= the=20 programs. I am also in search for a very big handbook, with cross reference word, f= or=20 ALL words. So you can find out, where to look, every thinkable word you m= ight=20 meet, when installing and using freebsd. I am a newbee, and I cannot simply remember, where I last read -or found = a=20 subject. I mean, most endusers simply do not have such a glue brain, that= =20 they can remember. (Many times they simply tells themselves: "Let me stay= =20 with windows. That I am used to.) I have tried using linux red hat, caldera and suse, and I have now begun = using=20 FreeBSD, and I find it the best system so far, with the most easy help=20 system. Nothing wrong with that. To sum up. Please simple manuals for all the some 6.000 programs, shell=20 commands, etc, with lots of simple to understand examples, so one at leas= t=20 can get started. This is just a newbees hottest wish. Even Microsoft have not yet found out, how important above is. It is the = alpha=20 and omega, for using operating systems and programs, for ordinary people.= ( I=20 have even found the same problems in manuals for tv, video and so on. ) I mean many people have difficulties just reading a simple explanation. It is okay, to make very sophisticated programs, but it is as important, = that=20 the enduser can find out, how to use it. And, please use simple English words. We enduser come from all parts of t= he=20 world, and do not all have the English language as our native language. A= nd=20 please no humour! :-) If you live in Africa, you do not know American sla= ng? Yes, I still have a dream ..... *smiling - positive* Regards,=20 A freebsd "Grassroot", hoping to saw just a tiny seed in some smart=20 programmers mind, so we can start begin really using UNIX type operating=20 systems, instead og windows 98! *serious - thinking - :-) *