From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 9 12: 6:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B1437BEB0; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:06:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA49809; Tue, 9 May 2000 13:06:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA87313; Tue, 9 May 2000 13:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005091905.NAA87313@harmony.village.org> To: Bruce Evans Subject: Re: Undocumented tape devices in pax(1) Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 May 2000 20:54:50 +1000." References: Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 13:05:46 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Bruce Evans writes: : On Mon, 8 May 2000, Warner Losh wrote: : : > Leaving aside the 'r' question for the moment... : > : > Should that be sa or ast? sa is the scsi device for any tape device : > (formerly st or mt), while ast is for ide/atapi based tape drives. : : It should be ssa and asa, of course :-). :-) We should at least add a referecne to ast. However, there is no ast man page. : > The wt and wst devices referenced in our man pages are just plain : > bogus. I think we've killed all ft references in the tree... : : No, wst is still used by pc98, and wt is the Wangtek tape driver. OK. : wst and ast are weird names. Doesn't the "s" in them stand for "SCSI" : and not "streaming", so wst is the so-called-Winchester (non-SCSI) SCSI : tape driver, etc? For completeness, we should have had nrrrwsst (the : non-rewinding rewinding raw so-called-Winchester streaming SCSI tape : driver) ;-). Seriously, why aren't there "n" and "e" forms of ast? IIRC, The s in st is streaming. Since there was only one streaming tape driver, it wasn't called sst and the name came over from SunOS (but there may be a more direct path via the BSD trees). However, this argument is weak because sd was the scsi disk and not the streaming disk. I don't know why there aren't n forms. There are on my system, but I crated the devices by hand based on the st entries that I had when I was beta testing Soren's wst driver (later recreated them for the ast driver). Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message