From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jun 20 11:42:23 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA03217 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 11:42:23 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA03210 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 11:42:10 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA27838; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 20:41:59 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id UAA03927 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 20:41:59 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA16646 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 20:32:19 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199506201832.UAA16646@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: NCR810 problem? To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 20:32:19 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) In-Reply-To: <9506201753.AA26084@cs.weber.edu> from "Terry Lambert" at Jun 20, 95 11:53:11 am Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 764 Sender: hackers-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Terry Lambert wrote: > > 3) In extreme cases (and extreme patience above and beyond what > anyone has a right to expect) they can debug remotely -- but > only with the knowledgeable help of the person evidencing > the bug. I second this. I've once debugged a pcvt problem at Brian Tao's machine in Taiwan via rlogin. It has been a big help to me to be able to analyze the core dump there (as opposed to shuffle several megabytes of core and kernel across the Internet), and he's been *really* cooperative in this! (Err, look now, he's already replying to a lot of the FreeBSD questions in Usenet himself. :-) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)