From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 05:15:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B053C16A4DA for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:15:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C9F43D6D for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:15:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1G7Q7j-000N03-B1; Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:15:27 -0600 In-Reply-To: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0F0A@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> References: <88D3FDF2A772ED44BCF8C91626ECD06905FD0F0A@sm-cala-xm20.swna.wdpr.disney.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:15:33 -0600 To: "Born, Clinton" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:15:32 -0000 On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:11 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: > Please explain? Because I like people to have an objective view > when it > comes to making technology decisions. We've made bad technology work, > and I've seen free software cost more than the most expensive > Microsoft > license. Too many variables are involved and anyone evangelizing a > single system should be viewed with skepticism.. Is this what you > mean > buy out of touch? The comparison to Hezbollah. There is not one item to compare between "tech fanatics" and Hezbollah -- only contrast. I personally am not an Open Source (O.S.) weenie, and some folks are O.S. fanatics etc (usually you find these in the Linux fan-boy club but they probably exist everywhere) but I have yet to see a MS solution that was the best solution to a given problem. Not that they don't exist, but the negatives of being trapped in a MS proprietary hell forever far outweigh any advantages over the long haul. I have personally seen to m any businesses who get trapped and cannot get out because of the proprietary nature of the data storage (file formats, etc), even when they want to. YMMV. Chad > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [mailto:chad@shire.net] > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:01 PM > To: Born, Clinton > Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > > On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: > >> Dude, I'm not a MS lackey. I just don't trust tech fanatics. They >> are on >> par with Hezbollah. > > You really are out of touch, aren't you. > > Chad > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com] >> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:42 PM >> To: Born, Clinton; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC >> Cc: FreeBSD Questions >> Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Born, Clinton" >> To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" ; "Born, Clinton" >> ; "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" >> >> Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" >> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:39 AM >> Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? >> >> >>> Yawn.... You are exactly what I'm talking about. >>> >> >> Oh, a person who writes a god damn book about integrating both MS >> solutions >> and >> FreeBSD? See http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com/ >> >> You just proved to the world your talking out your ass. >> >> Ted >> > > --- > Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC > Your Web App and Email hosting provider > chad at shire.net > > > --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net