From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 21 15:46:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598A51065676; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418588FC18; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost.apl.washington.edu [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8LFkLli024367; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:46:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8LFkLbJ024366; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:46:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:46:21 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: Ed Schouten Message-ID: <20090921154621.GA24208@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: arch@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tmux(1) in base X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:46:28 -0000 On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 01:26:57PM +0200, Ed Schouten wrote: > Hi all, > > At the DevSummit in Cambridge we briefly discussed including tmux(1) in > the base system. We recently had window(1) there, but unfortunately > window(1) was a very limited tool, compared to tools like screen(1) and > tmux(1). Why tmux(1) and not screen(1)? Well, simple. The first has a > better license and very active maintenance. > > I was talking with the author on IRC the other day and it seemed like I > spoke with him at a fortunate moment, because he was just about to > release version 1.0. I think it would be nice to import this into HEAD, > which means FreeBSD 9.0 (maybe 8.1?) will include it by default. > > How to test tmux in base: > > - Download this tarball and extract it to contrib/tmux: > http://downloads.sourceforge.net/tmux/tmux-1.0.tar.gz > - Apply the following patch: > http://80386.nl/pub/tmux.diff > > Comments? > I've used FreeBSD since it was known as 386bsd+patchkit. In that time, I've used window/screen exactly zero times. IMHO, neither screen nor tmux should be in the base system. These are easily installed from the Ports Collection. -- Steve