From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 27 23:01:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C8816A4E5 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7254A43D5A for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:01:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so1493270wxd for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:01:22 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P4OeQd4NuNURjc0Yfg2l0HdIzItst+nS9yhEXUBWokSToFbDfE6qoB0m1kzwYSpzHilcvxG7ZQPleRcmlRTzoV68z3UM7M66QkLJfBeXV24oFfI9nMxZGn7ELEFpPvAyKZmiXYs2/XoStaN9ii0C1aN5wd0IgY8dKxaRhwxCOoU= Received: by 10.70.52.5 with SMTP id z5mr8263418wxz; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.49.3 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:01:22 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)" In-Reply-To: <5584A99D-CB53-45D8-B552-BFF89A01E9C8@hackmiester.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5584A99D-CB53-45D8-B552-BFF89A01E9C8@hackmiester.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proof of concept box with 8mB RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:01:24 -0000 On 8/27/06, hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) wrote: > Everyone will laugh at this, but I have an old box with a 25mHz > processor or so. It has 8mB of memory. I want to install some type of > UNIX clone on it, as a proof of concept. I don't care if it's linux, > freebsd, or something else, but I need something that will run with > enough speed to run an sshd and not much else. It will just be to > prove that old hardware can still be used. Any suggestions? > _______________________________________________ That box doesn't have enough memory to run a current version of FreeBSD or Linux. Also what CPU does it use? FreeBSD 6.x, and I'm sure Linux 2.6, removed 386 support. You need a 486 or better to run the current version of FreeBSD. Does this box have a math coprocessor? The "recommended" minimum requirements to run FreeBSD 6.1 is a Pentium MMX, or equivalent, with 32MB of system ram. You can get by with less but you won't like the results if you plan to use it as a workstation. Use FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE or 5.5-STABLE for anything less then that. I did some tests on disk space and memory requirements back in January with FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE. Nobody seemed to notice the first time so I'll post it again: Test Rig: VMware 5 (Win2K/NTFS), VM Settings: 32MB RAM 64MB RAM For KDE-Lite Install (failed with 32MB) 128MB RAM For GNOME-Lite Install (failed with 64MB) 4GB Hard Drive (Default settings) CD-ROM (Pointing to FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386 ISO Images) No USB, No Audio, No LAN FreeBSD Disk Layout: ad0s1a 4095MB / ufs2 ad0s1b null swap null ad0s1d null /var null ad0s1e null /tmp null ad0s1f null /usr null Everything (/tmp, /var, and /usr) is setup on the root partition, no swap partition was setup. Results: * 1st column of numbers are from the VM disk image file. * 2nd column is from inside FreeBSD with "du -m". * All numbers reported in megabytes. Distribution Sets: Developer 918 741 X-Developer 1080 882 Kern-Developer 526 427 X-Kern-Developer 690 568 User 393 319 X-User 560 461 Minimal 183 156 Extrapolated Results: Ports System 283 270 GNOME-Lite 688 655 KDE-Lite 879 864 X.Org Default Install 164 143 X.Org Full Install 177 158 Linux Binary Compat. 255 127 Sys Sources + Proflibs 392 315 Kern Sources + Proflibs 133 109 Miscellaneous Sets: X-User (All X.Org) 572 476 X-User + GNOME-Lite 1247 1115 X-User + KDE-Lite 1438 1323 Minimal + Ports System 466 425 Minimal + Linux Compat. 438 282 -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/