From owner-freebsd-security Sat Sep 23 0: 4:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from homer.softweyr.com (bsdconspiracy.net [208.187.122.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD25E37B423 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 00:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=softweyr.com ident=Fools trust ident!) by homer.softweyr.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13cjLS-0000V1-00; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 01:03:34 -0600 Message-ID: <39CC55C6.A4507448@softweyr.com> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 01:03:34 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Phil Homewood Cc: Neil Blakey-Milner , security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall DOESN'T ASK, dangerous defaults! (Was: Re: wats so special about freeBSD?) References: <99016.969437392@winston.osd.bsdi.com> <99016.969437392@winston.osd.bsdi.com> <20000920125405.D22272@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20000921113652.053d4960@localhost> <20000921210521.A17973@mithrandr.moria.org> <39CA8E45.7DA45048@softweyr.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20000921182152.046d6ee0@localhost> <20000922103446.A25222@mithrandr.moria.org> <20000922183836.G27376@atlas.bit.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Phil Homewood wrote: > > Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > email clients use sendmail to send mail. If sendmail isn't running, it > > doesn't queue. We'll just lose that mail to a black hole. That isn't > > obvious. > > You could default to running sendmail without the "-bd" flag > and have a checkbox to enable "this machine wants to accept > email from the network", maybe? OpenBSD does this by default. Some simple documentation on how to replace sendmail with postfix, qmail, or exim would be handy too. Wokness and I are working on the latter, having both recently coverted to exim on multiple systems. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message