From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 9 14: 7:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f24.hotmail.com [216.32.181.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C234637B403 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 14:07:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmays2000@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 9 Jul 2001 14:07:14 -0700 Received: from 139.76.65.132 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 09 Jul 2001 21:07:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.76.65.132] From: "Kenneth Mays" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Benchmarks from SysAdmin mag Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 17:07:14 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jul 2001 21:07:14.0744 (UTC) FILETIME=[20EDB380:01C108BB] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, Well, Well, http://www.futuresouth.com/~fullermd/freebsd/bsdvlin.html This is one of the older links to someone testing FreeBSD 2.x against Linux 2.0.18. Somewhere between FreeBSD 2.1.5 and 2.2.1 they noticed an decrease in speed (12.9 versus 6.8). But, they mention a PERSONALIZED kernel on the faster kernel. The newer generic kernel was only a few notches slower than Linux. Hmmm. WHat it boils down to is customer preference. I spent about an hour getting FreeBSD 4.3_R up and running in which I compiled several programs and installed Netscape 4.77. Solaris 8_intel didn't seem to like my machine (I thought it may be the CD so said I'll try again). Mandrake 8.0 loaded nicely so I won't complain. My problem with Linux is that one does not fit all. FreeBSD is FreeBSD. Linux distributions depends on the vendor/developer. Mandrake is Redhat-based but its not Redhat. Others are Debian-based but not Debian. Then, there is Slackware. So how can you really claim that Linux is faster than FreeBSD when it depends on the flavor of Linux you use and other variables?!? The Linux kernel changes almost GREATLY between versions so Linux 2.2.4 may be larger different from 2.2.19 (bug-wise). FreeBSD v4.2 and 4.3 looks pretty much the same. You have to shop around for Linux distributions that may or may not work with your machine. I only have to fight with the releases of FreeBSD and I kinda know what I'm getting into since there s only "one" FreeBSD. I like that convenience. You can read this URL by Google's cache: http://www.wccdrom.com/~rab/bsd_chart.html. Again, its dated. The challenge is keeping this type of stuff updated. WinXP Pro is alot faster than Win2000 Pro so again its apples vs. oranges. The article CLEARLY points out two things about FreeBSD: it is 20-30% faster than Linux in networking apps and its has an easy port collections database. You don't have to keep screwing around with RPMS or .DEB files or .tgz swapping. You don't have to figure out what BOOK to buy that goes with your disribution!!! Some people don't have a clue about TCO. I like Linux for what it has done for the developer and user market of learning UNIX without the high cost of purchase. Sun could have done this but too little too late in releasing Solaris-Intel to the masses. Most honest people will tell us that they moved to FreeBSD from the other platforms, otherwise they use Solaris (support reasons). If they use Linux is mainly because they don't have the staff that knows FreeBSD well enough or even know about it (in detail). For non-SMP UNIX server environments I'd pick FreeBSd without much thought. For desktops I'd pick Windows or Mac because they are designed for desktops mainly (but why didn't they toss in BSDI 4.2 or Mac OS X Server to really make a statement?). I do like Microsoft's efforts in the email and database market. They try to do it all. Take it as opinion if a reviewer says one is faster than the other and lets move on otherwise. -Ken _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message