From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 28 00:35:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA19669 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:35:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA19660 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:35:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (root@sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.191]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05221; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:35:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00251; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA03070; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:35:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <199809280735.AAA03070@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:35:20 -0700 In-Reply-To: Terry Lambert "Re: Softupdates panics" (Sep 27, 10:43pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(3) 7/19/95) To: Terry Lambert , peter@netplex.com.au (Peter Wemm) Subject: Re: Softupdates panics Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, Don.Lewis@tsc.tdk.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, roberto@keltia.freenix.fr Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sep 27, 10:43pm, Terry Lambert wrote: } Subject: Re: Softupdates panics } > So? what's being written while you're reading a file? } > } > If you're reading and writing the file together, then the modtime stamps } > will cause the inode to be written out. If you're just reading, there is } > no metadata dependency at all because nothing is changed at all. } > } > Had anybody got problems with softupdates that can be specifically } > attributed to the use of -noatime ? } } See the most recent stack traceback posted in this forum, and Don } Lewis' analysis. There was nothing in the traceback that leads me to believe this panic was caused by noatime. As a matter of fact, I got the same panic with a similar traceback earlier today and I'm not using noatime. My theory is that it's another directory locking bug. It's quite possible that using noatime may make it easier to trigger this bug. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message