From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 25 22:08:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CFE0AD2; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from spectrum.skysmurf.nl (spectrum.skysmurf.nl [82.95.125.145]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAE7F110A; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from spectrum.skysmurf.nl (mail.skysmurf.nl [192.168.42.4] (may be forged)) by spectrum.skysmurf.nl (8.14.7/8.14.7) with SMTP id s1PM8iuE092445; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:08:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@skysmurf.nl) Received: by spectrum.skysmurf.nl (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:08:44 +0100 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:08:44 +0100 From: "A.J. 'Fonz' van Werven" To: Baptiste Daroussin Subject: Re: Support for pkg_* Message-ID: <20140225220844.GA92169@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> References: <530C5793.2070208@heuristicsystems.com.au> <20140225141144.GA87810@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> <20140225163457.GI83610@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140225163457.GI83610@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> X-PGP-Key: http://www.skysmurf.nl/~fonz/fonz_pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Cc: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" , Dewayne Geraghty X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 22:08:48 -0000 --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > Can we stop advertising the above, this is completly wrong, it hides the > dust behind the carpet and won't fix anything! >=20 > The said port is needed a fix. Granted: it's not staging itself that is the problem, it's incorrect usage thereof. But anyone possessing even the tiniest trace amount of realism will have to concede that port maintainers do occasionally get it wrong. And when they do the errors as reported by the OP are a tell-tale symptom. Indeed: disabling/avoiding staging doesn't fix the actual problem, but it does usually mitigate the symptom(s) and could in such cases be used as a temporary workaround for those who - for whatever reason - are disinclined to wait for the port to get fixed. I'd even go as far as to say that disabling staging can be used as a diagnostic tool: if a port that (supposedly) supports staging doesn't install properly, but does so with staging disabled, it's a pretty safe bet that the maintainer didn't get the staging bit entirely correct. Of course it would then be a good idea to notify said port maintainer (and submitting patches if at all possible), but in this particular case we didn't even get there. Or to put it another way: I did not mean to suggest that there's something wrong with your precious baby. In fact, I'm actually rather fond of her. However, it appears that not everybody is holding her properly yet ;-) AvW --=20 I'm not completely useless, I can be used as a bad example. --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTDRRsAAoJEAfP7gJTaCe8p/MP/jaJhevE/+46Ycta7aTd3lS0 ygHfKjAVtmJIOOoj9Ez/HVUjEKeNpovRBm6doUUAcLIxjl2PVCKZCfAsbDiOJdEm +Ec9FM2/33THcawAl3utSs4m+hgcPhgmzo6hsN7RVb45boDWxOffh7DZK92fqKGq h3482jRi1WeCUkQ0iFv0wRiz1zqPv/2+ZJrnyWZkL35MPsIPUqJpYlNel+G2fpm5 HHhNv36/eFqgrzRip6mx1iKUr5Wx0LSDVVu59eeT/LY4fJ5oEV1MVOdo1e5oQnja t/eQ5vnFk3/+zUxnrypEuEPDVj0JbKx0jkC/DEb8blq2QQuX1btnfodAC4cma/ka nY8l73x0JkLnpdv/QqpF4Uvz5Rc8AMeHdZxS23ch7osgbu8z9ZqU29aZF9f0SPgF cSAHAooDF+pky7CLWClU1ioDsHPQYqFBgAfDQBHh5WrK9Ok1pdXzZ197iTjan4C6 enCuMVNuqcL6QU+bCBHenblj4coqHntvlG8Uhh8juEwTW7FohVbcdtYy9A812211 ABkrUzcGywZY8VKcx7Fe7zY9ZtgljYp9fXjE95SpzkLWoCqmxCXdhWdock5pn2hj wr/2f3ktcXIrQp2NdbSxW4f4WCPraToVmnOfxxfBuwYqqO5aC/R7XuF1omLoAMPx 7C1o714QLSu9p6AJOUP4 =1JD+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C--