From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 4 05:04:15 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A64FC7A78 for ; Fri, 4 May 2018 05:04:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF776BF67 for ; Fri, 4 May 2018 05:04:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 40004806; Fri, 04 May 2018 12:04:11 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w4454Bpc004693; Fri, 4 May 2018 12:04:11 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w44549JU004692; Fri, 4 May 2018 12:04:09 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 12:04:09 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Carl Johnson Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative to x11/gnome3 ? Message-ID: <20180504050409.GA3877@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180429140256.GA8201@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <042bf1a7-32fb-8bfa-16d1-9cbc54e19a61@zyxst.net> <20180503043605.GA49385@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <86sh78dqz6.fsf@elm.localnet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86sh78dqz6.fsf@elm.localnet> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 May 2018 05:04:15 -0000 Carl Johnson wrote: > Victor Sudakov writes: > > > tech-lists wrote: > >> > > >> > What alternative to x11/gnome3 can you advise? > >> > > >> > I would like a more lightweight desktop environment, however it MUST > >> > support switching between GUI users without logging out (like > >> > Ubuntu or Windows). > >> > > >> > I tried Mate but it does not seem to be able to switch between users > >> > without logging out (at least the display manager Mate comes with > >> > cannot do that). > >> > > >> > Thanks in advance for any input. > >> > > >> > >> I use xdm with xfce4 for this. > > > > Could you please tell more about it. What packages you had to install > > besides x11/xfce, how you configured xdm and xfce4 to support user > > switching, how you start xfce4. > > I haven't used it, but XFCE does have a 'switch user' button for the > panel. Yes, it does, but the button is grey and cannot be used. > It is part of the 'action buttons' panel addon, but appears to > be part of the basic install. Those action buttons also include things > like lock screen, suspend, hibernate, etc. Let me know if you need more > information. Yes, I need more information please. In my setup, the 'switch user' button is grey (inactive). How do I make it actually work? How is it even *supposed* to work? xdm per se certainly does not do "user switching" in the sense Windows or Ubuntu allow it (with the disconnected user's X-clients still running in the background). -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859