From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 13 12:29:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E1837B41C for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 12:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lungfish.ntlworld.com ([62.253.155.10]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020113202930.RAOA7000.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@lungfish.ntlworld.com>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:29:30 +0000 Received: from tuatara.goatsucker.org (tuatara.goatsucker.org [192.168.1.6]) by lungfish.ntlworld.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g0DKTSn91309; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:29:28 GMT (envelope-from scott@tuatara.goatsucker.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by tuatara.goatsucker.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0DKSik24537; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:28:44 GMT (envelope-from scott) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:28:44 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell To: "Brian T.Schellenberger" Cc: Rodrigo A B Freire , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newbie: 4.4-stable, how to? Message-ID: <20020113202844.B21380@localhost> References: <00b901c19c43$3454d040$ea489ac8@rodhome> <0da520355170d12FE8@mail8.nc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <0da520355170d12FE8@mail8.nc.rr.com>; from bts@babbleon.org on Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 12:54:42PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 12:54:42PM -0500, Brian T.Schellenberger wrote: > On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:01 am, Rodrigo A B Freire wrote: > > People, > > > > Is there an easy way to install the 4.4-stable version, without the > > complication of CVSup, etc. etc etc.? > > No. If you don't want all that complexity you just need to wait for the next > release. They come out about once a quarter, so this shouldn't be an > enormous burden. > > Besides, cvsup and buildworld are really very easy to do; just following the > "leading edge" section of the handbook and read /usr/ports/UPDATING. > > I know it sounds scary but it's really very smooth (at least if you have a > fast internet connection--I imagine it's pretty tiresome on a regular phone > modem). It's actually not as bad as you might think. Cvsup manages to do a *very* good job of both transferring as little data as it can get away with and streaming it rather than doing thousands of little request-reply interactions (the latency on a dialup will kill you once you start down that road). I have a local CVS repository here holding src and ports. This gets cvsupped probably about once a week; the whole process takes around 5-10 minutes over a 33k6 dialup. I set it up initially by unpacking the repository snapshot from a 4.4 CD -- the initial cvsup to get that up to date was somewhat painful, but it hasn't been too bad since. Not that I'm not looking forward to getting my cable modem, you understand, just that it's not impossible to do these things with the old technology :-) Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott.mitchell@mail.com | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message