From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 6 21:15:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1600616A41C; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:15:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E76743D46; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 21:15:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.157.226]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j66LFZ3C091195; Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:15:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <42CC49BC.8030905@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 16:14:36 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050607 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <20050704111446.GA7402@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> <42C9EBBE.3030404@pacific.net.sg> <20050705124241.GA769@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> In-Reply-To: <20050705124241.GA769@beatrix.daedalusnetworks.priv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: BSD systems for distance learning: was (How to improve FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:15:39 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >Before we embark on yet another flame about the daemon or its relative >religious significane to a certain percentage of the potential FreeBSD >users, we need to think as members of the advocacy list and as users or >contributors to FreeBSD what have WE done to actively promote FreeBSD >lately? What have WE done to make it more known to the masses? Have >we really solved ALL other problems and feel that our efforts are >severely limited by the daemon logo, in a way that needs immediate >action to discuss or change it? > >That's all. That's why I'm in favor of direct and immediate action and >my alarms go off whenever I see yet another (mostly pointless) >discussion about what should be done. > >Don't talk anymore. Go out there and do. > > - Send an article about FreeBSD to your favorite online or print > publication. > - Write the code for a new FreeBSD feature. > - Fix an existing bug. > >Just do :) > > And, if you were/are a person to whom religion is significant, Giorgios, you should be a preacher/priest/pastor/cleric or whatever your brand calls it. We'd say here: "Amen, brother, preach it!!". Now, about "doing": I've got a lady (I met at a church, incidentally) after me to help her "get something going" with a program that seems to have been developed by the Mexican Government. I don't fully understand it, but it's about remote learning, and IIUC, participants can earn an educational certification ("High School" equivalency, perhaps, or even more) from said Government from here in the USA. She showed me a site, a "Portal Educativo", and I looked around for a while (at the time, I was in a "windows only" shop, so I was on Mozilla/WinXP). I didn't see much that looked like anything but standard web content, but the sheet she gave me was a standard "Microsoft Shop(ping) List" of technical requirements. I'm going to try and obtain a Winbox or two, but I'm thinking to also put some BSD boxes where they will be available for use. I may even put fvwm2 in the "WinXP lookalike" mode just to see if I can freak anybody out, or show them that, for the most part, standard apps on one platform look a lot like standard apps on another. I'm not fluent in Espanol; is anyone familiar with this program (http://www.conevyt.org.mx/)? Are these folks really going to need Windows? (Rich clients, perhaps? ActiveX? --- so far, all I've found are some java applets embedded in the sites.) Of course, I'm not able to access some pages . . . and not necessarily sure why, since the error messages aren't English. I know in a few cases I can't see everything since I've not yet "registro" (I'm definitely challenged by verb endings).... Anyway, I was curious if anyone else knows about this program. I have no idea if I can successfully deploy FBSD alongside that other product in this environment, but I'd like to keep the possibility open, and try . . . no one in this part of the country has implemented it yet, AFAIK, and we might get some local or regional press if we could pull something off. Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P.