From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 2 14:56:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323EA37B401 for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 14:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maul.immure.com (adsl-66-136-206-1.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [66.136.206.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DC943FBD for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 14:56:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by maul.immure.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h42LutCx083248; Fri, 2 May 2003 16:56:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from luke.immure.com (luke.immure.com [10.1.132.3]) by maul.immure.com (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h42LusAi083223; Fri, 2 May 2003 16:56:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by luke.immure.com (8.12.9/8.12.3) id h42LusoL038320; Fri, 2 May 2003 16:56:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@luke.immure.com) Received: from luke.immure.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by luke.immure.com (8.12.9/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h42Lur95038293; Fri, 2 May 2003 16:56:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob@luke.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by luke.immure.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h42LupPD038292; Fri, 2 May 2003 16:56:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 16:56:51 -0500 From: Bob Willcox To: Tenebrae Message-ID: <20030502215651.GE27495@luke.immure.com> References: <20030430123642.N62992@steeltoe.niceboots.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030430123642.N62992@steeltoe.niceboots.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-scanner: scanned by Inflex 1.0.12.3 on luke.immure.com X-scanner: scanned by Inflex 1.0.12.3 on maul.immure.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: blackmail attempt? Stable mailing list block? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Willcox List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 21:56:57 -0000 On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 01:08:55PM -0700, Tenebrae wrote: > On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Andy Harrison wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On 30-Apr-2003, Scheidell@secnap.com wrote message "Re: blackmail attempt? > > Stable mailing list block?" > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > you know their listing and delisting policies, besides, if you want 100% spam > > > free, then the only FREE list to use is ours' blocked.secnap.net. Again, do > > > research before you use ANY blacklist! > > > > Anyone have any other recommended ones? I'm also using bl.spamcop.net > > Well, since they keep mistakenly blacklisting the ISP I work for because > one of our customers forwards spam to his spamcop account, I have an > incredibly low opinion of SpamCop. > We're currently using several osirusoft blacklists: > > inputs.osirusoft.com > spamhaus.osirusoft.com > dialups.osirusoft.com I have a growing problem with osirusoft.com in that they appear to be using the spews.org blacklist and are, consequently, blacklisting my IP address. Apparently (from the spews.org data/evidence) file they have blacklisted a large range (appx 3000) of IP addresses belonging to swbel.net due to some accused spammer named Thomas Cowles. I have been assigned a small block of static addresses from within the middle of this block by SBC (my DSL provider). I have not been able to find a way to get my addresses off of spews.org's blacklist. They don't seem to make it very easy to do. Their recommendation is to change ISPs...a painful and very undesireable prospect for me...having just switched to SBC because my previous DSL provider got out of the DSL business. As much as I hate spam, I'm beginning to feel that the whole notion of using blacklists is a bad idea. The only blacklist that will stop all spam is one that covers all addresses! Bob > > On my own server, I just manually add stuff. > -Tenebrae. > --- > The sending of any unsolicited email advertising messages to this domain > may result in the imposition of civil liability against you in accordance > with Cal. Bus. & Prof. Code Section 17538.45. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Bob Willcox Patience is a minor form of despair, disguised as virtue. bob@immure.com -- Ambrose Bierce, on qualifiers Austin, TX