From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 03:29:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587E01065675 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 03:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s16.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s16.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428D88FC2B for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 03:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.248]) by bay0-omc2-s16.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:17:12 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:16:35 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.10.254 by by122fd.bay122.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 03:16:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.225.143.90] X-Originating-Email: [stupendoussteve@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stupendoussteve@hotmail.com From: "Steven Susbauer" To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:16:34 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2008 03:16:35.0292 (UTC) FILETIME=[6968F9C0:01C93C99] Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Would Linux exist without the Internet? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 03:29:12 -0000 mdh wrote: >--- On Sat, 11/1/08, Darren Pilgrim wrote: >>From: Darren Pilgrim >>Subject: Re: Would Linux exist without the Internet? >>To: "Jayton Garnett" >>Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org >>Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 6:30 PM >>Jayton Garnett wrote: >>>Would the Internet exist without BSD? >>>No. >>> >>>Would Linux exist without the Internet? :) >>>No. >>By extension: Linux wouldn't exist without BSD. :) > >I've seen a quote around attributed to Linus Torvalds, stating something >along the lines of "If I'd known about 386BSD back then, I probably >wouldn't have created Linux." > >So an inverse is true, as well - Linux wouldn't exist with BSD. Or >something. > >- mdh I believe it's from an old LinuxNews piece, from October 1992 - http://www.abc.se/~m9339/linux/linuxdoc/linuxnews03a.html "LN: How do you feel about Minix, 386BSD, and Hurd and their authors? Are they rivals, or or allies? Linus: 386BSD and Hurd are most definitely allies - I'll be happy to help them any way I can (for 386BSD I was already able to help with the math-emulator, and I've been in contact with some others re: vm86 etc). *If 386BSD had been available a year earlier, I would probably never have started on Linux*, but as it is, I'm happy to say that 386BSD didn't automatically mean that Linux wasn't worth it. Both 386BSD and Linux have their points, and I naturally think Linux is more fun." So there you have it, pull out your time machines. ;)