From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 17:05:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A30A106567E for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 17:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-303.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-303.bluehost.com [67.222.53.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11D788FC0C for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 17:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 18363 invoked by uid 0); 29 May 2009 17:05:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy6.bluehost.com with SMTP; 29 May 2009 17:05:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=A6aWxGKOf+v5+nf0bYWhodSGnn5McmgFV9y4RrT1EuADdojy8O5U8mTAgZByR/dJeLCVA1OYsglmg/XSeHD3Giu+9FivSPyLyRnbWAkYW2Sebzu6YiM/Eo/0ZXgAeuL0; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MA5Wc-0003yV-KL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 May 2009 11:05:46 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 29 May 2009 11:00:49 -0600 Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:00:49 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090529170049.GB46917@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <87prdsr5ep.fsf_-_@kobe.laptop> <87r5y8cprs.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87bppci91h.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87my8w6shm.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87octcuklu.fsf@kobe.laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dc+cDN39EJAMEtIO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: On the need for moderated questions lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 17:05:47 -0000 --dc+cDN39EJAMEtIO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 03:14:20PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >Not necessarily. > > > >There were 'rules' in Nazi Germany too, and there usually exist at least > >some 'rules' in oppressive regimes, but they do not necessarily, by > >virtue of their mere existence, lead to satisfying results. >=20 > The difference is that you have choice here, people living in Nazi German= y=20 > (and Poland) that times didn't. Let's de-Godwinize this, and just use the generic "dictatorship" idea to stand in for "Nazi Germany". In fact, let's go a step further and assume a benign dictatorship -- even benevolent, from some perspectives -- since I'm sure we're assuming a strictly moderated list would be intended to help rather than merely control. So . . . you have the same choice in a dictatorship that you have in a benign dictatorship: leave. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Mediocrity corrupts. Bureaucracy corrupts absolutely. --dc+cDN39EJAMEtIO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkogFMEACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUbcwCcDJLmy1HwlDdQgSpjoGw2JkqX qboAnR90Bk8EN9BJJYZqgY9A89XooB/X =ZKSp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dc+cDN39EJAMEtIO--