From owner-freebsd-arch Tue Nov 14 10:52:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C6837B65E; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16115; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:50:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAK2aiCF; Tue Nov 14 11:50:48 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA24877; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:52:43 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200011141852.LAA24877@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: RANDOMDEV inspired realitycheck regarding i386/i486... To: ben@FreeBSD.ORG (Ben Smithurst) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 18:52:40 +0000 (GMT) Cc: phk@FreeBSD.ORG (Poul-Henning Kamp), arch@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20001114144613.B88888@platinum.scientia.demon.co.uk> from "Ben Smithurst" at Nov 14, 2000 02:46:13 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > If no /entropy is found it takes a full minute to do the randomdev > > seeding during boot on a P5/133. > > > > Has anybody run a 486 or 386 under current recently ? > > Yes, my only -current machine is a 486. I gave up waiting for the > randomdev seeding to complete. It's lucky I'm only a docs committer and > therefore not terribly important I run -current I suppose. :-) I can only risk -current on old hardware that I don't have anything important stored on, and that means 386 or 486 class hardware. I think that dropping support for 386/486 would be a retreat up-market. Is FreeBSD so marginalized that it needs to do what hard disk vendors and others have done, when their market share is failing? There's a good reason that most of the proprietary hardware vendors are retreating into large scale parallel systems... but it's not like FreeBSD is trying to support 40% margins on sales, like they are. My two cents says this is a problem with the design of randomdev, and not a problem with 386/486 hardware. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message