From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Aug 27 2:27:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from ringworld.nanolink.com (discworld.nanolink.com [217.75.135.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DD7B37B403 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 02:27:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 2696 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Aug 2001 09:25:55 -0000 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:25:55 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: Michael Truog Cc: ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Download link Message-ID: <20010827122555.E2218@ringworld.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Michael Truog , ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjtruog@mail.ru on Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 11:54:43PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 11:54:43PM +0000, Michael Truog wrote: > I really wish you wouldn't have removed the Download link (underneath > all ports' description on the web site) to easily find the latest FreeBSD > package files in the ports tree. You instead replaced it with a Main Web > Site link (for dumb people that don't realize that the Long Description > link usually contains a web site too). Obviously catering to linux > kiddies.......sad Hrm. Excuse me? What exactly are you looking at? http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/ does have a 'Package' link for both the 'Search' results and the ports enumerated by category. I honestly cannot see a 'Main Web Site' link anywhere except in the description; you cannot reach the description without going through the shorter port synopsis, which has a 'Package' link. > I know you seem to be trying to get more people from linux over to > FreeBSD but you sure are messing up on the way..... I really do not think this is an explicit goal of the FreeBSD Project. I'd rather think the goal was more like making FreeBSD itself better, so people who know what they want would make the transition themselves :) > a little planning i think....OSX got messed up by FreeBSD's sudo....right? I don't really know what you mean by this. There is no such thing as "FreeBSD's sudo" - sudo is only available as a port under FreeBSD, it is an externally maintained program, and when some problems were discovered there, it was in no way FreeBSD's fault. You do not honestly expect the FreeBSD porters' team to perform a source-level security audit on each and every of the 5000+ ports in the tree, do you now? :) > you just had a nice hole in your telentd......in the main distribution > (nice little sign you have on your web site). This was not FreeBSD-specific, as I'm sure you are aware (you do read forums like BugTraq, right?). Please cite an OS that had some form of BSD-derived telnet daemon and was *not* affected by this :) > I have to say FreeBSD is becoming more pathetic each day. It still is > better than linux. My only question is for how long. Thank you for your opinion. > Just a little rant, I know you donate time......just preserve > FreeBSD's stability and appeal as a good system to develop on...... > thats all. Thanks. We do try. Please cite some real FreeBSD-specific problems in your next rant :) G'luck, Peter -- If there were no counterfactuals, this sentence would not have been paradoxical. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message