From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 3 07:50:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB5324F; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 07:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) Received: from vps.rulingia.com (host-122-100-2-194.octopus.com.au [122.100.2.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE8F8FC0A; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 07:50:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.rulingia.com (c220-239-241-202.belrs5.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.241.202]) by vps.rulingia.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qA37oZdm069210 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:50:36 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qA37oUSV085544 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:50:30 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id qA37oT0f085543; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:50:29 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:50:29 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Brooks Davis Subject: Re: FORTRAN vs. Fortran (was: November 5th is Clang-Day) Message-ID: <20121103075029.GC12996@server.rulingia.com> References: <20121102060818.GB48921@eureka.lemis.com> <201211021021.qA2ALJLF020996@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20121102162110.GB92218@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121102162110.GB92218@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 07:50:39 -0000 --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2012-Nov-02 11:21:10 -0500, Brooks Davis wrote: >On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 10:21:19AM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> It's a shame though that, with LLVM as the >> default compiler, further development of >> FreeBSD/ia64 and FreeBSD/sparc64 >> will probably suffer and then stop altogether. > >If you read either my annoucment or the diff closly you will note that >the default it only changing for x86 architectures. Even with all the best of intentions, once the x86 architectures (which cover the bulk of the user and developer mass) migrate to a different toolchain, the risk of bitrot in the GNU toolchain decomes non-negligible. And once it breaks, there may not be the critical mass to repair it. This is basically what happened to the Alpha. --=20 Peter Jeremy --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlCUzMUACgkQ/opHv/APuIeqmQCgnRLevXsLHBbLlEb3VRY728cJ 8SsAni4dZp9elMhDC/3QsDc0lQW7U8hF =gGS6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4--