From owner-freebsd-java Thu Aug 6 08:12:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18917 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:12:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18912 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:12:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA11739; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:11:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA12376; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:11:55 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:11:55 -0600 Message-Id: <199808061511.JAA12376@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Patrick Gardella Cc: Nate Williams , java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: jdk1.1.6.V98-7-21.tar.gz In-Reply-To: References: <199808061453.IAA12276@mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> Are we considering the CD either (a) a product or (b) charging for it? > > > > It's a product for Walnut Creek. Matter of fact, the CD *is* the only > > product from WC. > > I was considering a product to be a Java product that JDK was bundled with. If > it's any product, then we can't distribute it, as you have said. Lawyers in the past have made no distinction between 'charging for media' and charging for 'product'. I expect Sun's lawyers to behave the same, and so do all of the other porters. > >> I don't consider that we are doing either. If JDK can be place in a > >> book, and the book can be charged for, why can't we distribute them? > > > > As a matter of fact, you can't in fact put the JDK on a CD and > > distribute it with a book. > > Hum. I wonder if they have a commercial license, or if we can arrange with > Sun to distribute it freely on the CD. I'll follow that up. A commercial license costs close to a million $$. I talked with someone whose company actually bought one, and there's no way WC is going to do that just to distribute the JDK. As far as SUN allowing giving dispensation, I gave up on trying to have any meaningful relationship with them. They promised 6-9 months ago that we (the FreeBSD java porters) would get access to the JDK1.2 sources long before they went public. I kept on them for weeks until they finally quit answering email. Apparently the Linux folks have the same problem, and their advocate *works* for Javasoft. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message