From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 16 18:35:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA14757 for current-outgoing; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 18:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from friley01.res.iastate.edu (friley01.res.iastate.edu [129.186.189.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14702; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 18:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from friley01.res.iastate.edu (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by friley01.res.iastate.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03997; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:33:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199706170133.UAA03997@friley01.res.iastate.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Michael Smith cc: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert), hasty@rah.star-gate.com, dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need to rebuild libkvm,ps,w In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 17 Jun 1997 09:47:00 +0930. <199706170017.JAA13345@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 20:32:59 -0500 From: Chris Csanady Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: >> > > Dumb question, why can't we isolate the apps from the proc data structur es? >> > >> > Because the in-kernel infrastructure for arb. data retrieval isn't >> > there yet. >> >> Actually, isn't it really the memory image arguments to ps/w/et. al. >> that cause the problem? We could go to /proc tomorrow if /proc >> were mandatory and we didn't care about ps'ing crash dumps (doing >> that sems to me to be the job of the kernel debugger, anyway). > >Argh. I keep forgetting that case 8(. Who does still use ps on crash >dumps? Is it useful in that form? Well, how about we "forget" that case for now, and leave it as incentive for someone to fill in? If it's ever to get done, it may as well be done now. It will drag on forever otherwise.. I'm sure a _lot_ more people care that the data structures be coherent.. Chris Csanady