From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 08:15:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9363A37B405 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 08:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [64.58.171.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2970443FE1 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 08:15:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vizion@ixpres.com) Received: from vizion (vizion.vizion2000.net [64.58.171.92]) by dns1.vizion2000.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h74Gdab17272; Mon, 4 Aug 2003 09:39:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vizion@ixpres.com) Message-ID: <02ac01c35a9a$5abaa270$15b55042@vizion2000.net> From: "vizion communication" To: "David Wolfskill" References: <200308041503.h74F37fB063301@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 08:09:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Something is wrong here X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 15:15:49 -0000 Inthat casethe automated message which tell people with whom to communicate when they get thrown off the list needs to be changed so that when something is clearly wrong you do not get a seemingly inane response when you follow the instructions;-) Just who is responsible for : 1. Maintaining the wording of the automated reply 2. The rules which generate the automated reply 3. The rules which interprete whether ort not someone has "excessive bounces" 4. The rules which should determine whether someone gets thrown off the list or not At the moment I perceive this problem being excessively bounced around with noone taking responsibilty to deal with it. The problem has been around for at least 6 months. Look something is clearly wrong here -- the whole thing needs looking into - every reply I get from anyone appears to be defensive rather than pro-actively empathetic - sothe correspondence is getting protracted and I am beginning to feel irritated - David ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Wolfskill" To: Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:03 AM Subject: Re: Something is wrong here > All of the *-owner@FreeBSD.ORG addresses (for all of the mailman- > managed mailing lists) map to the list "moderators@FreeBSD.ORG", > which is a list that: > > * is restricted to the folks doing mailing list administration at > FreeBSD.ORG and > > * is a posting-by-subscribers-only list. > > In other words, this is normal. > > > If you want to discuss mail delivery with someone, write to postmaster@. > > Peace, > david (current hat: postmaster@freebsd.org) > -- > David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org > Based on what I have seen to date, the use of Microsoft products is not > consistent with reliability. I recommend FreeBSD for reliable systems. >