From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 29 23: 8:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B4515471; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:08:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.197.179]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA5975; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:08:25 +0100 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA38906; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:48:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:48:32 +0100 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: current@freebsd.org, cg@freebsd.org, tanimura@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More newpcm breakage Message-ID: <19991130074832.B28473@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <86zovx6tzn.fsf@niobe.ewox.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <86zovx6tzn.fsf@niobe.ewox.org>; from des@flood.ping.uio.no on Mon, Nov 29, 1999 at 07:19:24PM +0100 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [19991129 19:49], Dag-Erling Smorgrav (des@flood.ping.uio.no) wrote: >My SB32 PnP, which had so far worked nicely with newpcm except for the >"fast forward" bug, stopped working after the newmidi import. This >means that none of my sound cards (except for the GUS PnP, which I >haven't tested) work any more, and I am seriously losing faith in the >authors' ability to maintain a device driver. This is CURRENT des, things are expected to not work or even break at times. And instead of just throwing out and voicing this `loss of faith' you could have taken a more active approach and try and help and see what was causing the actual problems with the not-detection of the cards. Cameron and Tanimura-san have done great work and we getting further and further where we want to go with the new sound support. The FreeBSD Project taught me that it is easy to just bitch and moan, but that the real work only comes when you help with it yourself. That's a lesson you must have learned way before I even joined helping on the project. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Learn e-mail netiquette: http://www.lemis.com/email.html Sometimes the Heart wanders in fantasies, keeping the mind in its power constantly... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message