From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Feb 18 09:23:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA16541 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 09:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from odin.visigenic.com (odin.visigenic.com [204.179.98.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16534 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 09:23:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from VSI48 (vsi48.visigenic.com [206.64.15.185]) by odin.visigenic.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA1940; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 09:20:20 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970218092258.009912a0@visigenic.com> X-Sender: toneil@visigenic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 09:22:59 -0800 To: Darren Reed From: "Tim Oneil" Subject: Re: Sun Workshop compiler vs. GCC? Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 12:07 AM 2/16/97 +1100, you wrote: >1. Solaris You've got to be kidding. >2. FreeBSD >3. Linux >(and a long way behind...) >4. NetBSD >I installed on a standard clone, no special cards, etc. Solaris was by >far the easiest, well, maybe the disk partitioning is a bit confusing. I have to agree, installing solaris is like a hand-held tour through a park. >If I was a user, I'd also like the Solaris boot the best, too. This I don't see. As soon as its installed and ready to go, it looks like any other posix compliant os. Just as cryptic (so to speak) as any other. BSD, Solaris, AIX, HPUX, they all look the same to me at the console. >A lot of people here will disagree with me, perhaps, but when I look at >the bootup screen for Solaris2, I see a finish built for users who don't >know or care about hardware details etc (makes FreeBSD and others look Your right, I think a lot of people will disagree. I don't see much difference here either. My sun box probes scsi ports and whatnot just the same as my bsd box at boot time. >like "hacks"). If I could, I'd advocate that the free unixes have a >similar quiet boot as default and a "verbose" option to see all the junk >messages about detecting disks, etc. I see the same with NT4.0 (there is >a way to get a "verbose" boot). Hack, on a fast PC, those boot messages >disappear too quickly to digest anyway! Thats why they come with options like the f8 key, so that people who are more interested in getting things done and don't have time to be afraid of thier hardware can see those messages.