From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 16 21:00:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01239 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:00:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [205.153.153.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01227 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fewtch@serv.net) Received: from desktop-pentium (dialup513.serv.net [207.207.70.78]) by mx.serv.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA09775; Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980616210023.007f6370@mx.serv.net> X-Sender: fewtch@mx.serv.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:00:23 -0700 To: Malartre From: Tim Gerchmez Subject: Re: A first encounter with 'vi' Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <35871C17.EB2898B@aei.ca> References: <3.0.5.32.19980615181815.007f16b0@mx.serv.net> <3.0.5.32.19980616181522.007f0990@mx.serv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:29 PM 6/16/98 -0400, you wrote: >Argh, Tim you are closed minded. Gee, thanks. Just because I can't stand Vi and don't want to teach myself how to write a 500 page novel using it, I'm closed minded. Hmm, OK, whatever you say. >I'm newbie. I dont think un*x is the solution for a newbie. I'm a newbie to Unix, but not a newbie to computing. I've been into computers for 15 years, and put in enough hours in those 15 years in front of computers to make it more like 30 years. I've also been programming in one form or another for those past 15 years too. So although you may think my opinion is closed-minded, I certainly have earned the right to have it. >But if you want to know un*x, know basic tools common to unix. >Vi is one of the most important, because if someday you go on another >un*x-clone, vi will be there. So will something else, believe me, unless Unix wants to stay back in the 1960's... in which case, I would never use it. Vi is a throwback to an earlier era where the computer didn't do the text editing, a dumb terminal did it, and sent the results back to the computer for processing afterwards. >Its a really good suggestion. So take it yourself - write me a 20 page essay on why you think I should become proficient in Vi... using vi and nothing else to write it. You talk big, prove it yourself. -- My web site starts at http://www.serv.net/~fewtch/index.html - lots of goodies for everyone, have a look if you have the time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message