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Tue, 12 May 2020 13:35:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.16.2.3] (89-72-198-38.dynamic.chello.pl [89.72.198.38]) by archeo.suszko.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EA0A9217D9; Tue, 12 May 2020 13:35:34 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=suszko.eu; s=dkim; t=1589283335; bh=bpD9B+c0jReUq2vvAKjUdtUol0LlBLFJVSo2hX1vKIk=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=s/VKnPNTBZevMpNarc79/UgLqmI+Dxdk80TxNk6k6RbobqFi2j+Hh5rEg0Xnc03lG iU8EcAOIwRv8IIxLal5mQavKEzDRAAVZZDKNG8HjaMtWqVmdpeoHOk02tizADxA/tb v5pf6TKQOeEfaB6xlOpvHjTTaLi5b/ZImh24Wt80= Subject: Re: Microsoft Teams for Linux To: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200505093624.00001df2@seibercom.net> <223da1b3-a83d-b2e8-36dc-468dcb219305@suszko.eu> <20200508113438.00006adc@seibercom.net> <9329b8e5-c973-c65e-2261-c529dbfc5e7d@suszko.eu> <20200512071116.0000356f@seibercom.net> <20200512132155.dfaccc07.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Maciej Suszko Autocrypt: addr=maciej@suszko.eu; keydata= mQENBFzMuVABCADTImD6lLLoxdskJypDlDvu7ilbbluXdJiZ8+hcb/WzZXD+fKn3h01BtJYN p4IuX2fn9Rc94GXanuJl0/AlguQexgUgOKdiqDHZyCjRX42vIq0BKXkvK6Gd2wUYqbhjyzr1 V0WT9qTxVlHEbPUCQJ6QxQA2ygJNdwKPvnKwlrj6NWskmpycM3/3uIHhVrRWsrO9El/o2mRX JeIVV0BzP0lYLYhpuwMAlu+B8lPxVChuVQb6UWzLIvSGfqXUPnAxJXcZxkFyEnnetnXctrKC NGnRYPop3r7kd2MgkvHgw81aVMf7HqXhxBBQq0kUrg9TCsL9wwQfyPR7LDgQrIFP78WZABEB AAG0IE1hY2llaiBTdXN6a28gPG1hY2llakBzdXN6a28uZXU+iQFRBBMBCAA7AhsDBQsJCAcC BhUKCQgLAgQWAgMBAh4BAheAAhkBFiEEIoJrn47KEjxeB5CF95cXLotfKhkFAlzMupkACgkQ 95cXLotfKhmWYAf/e9JHkUxoVHj6LsOS9YLM+XFZzeRM93K3t9gzpWalIvEAIMKicO0KFypl XXGiSc9ECeZNEwd+VfU6AmL707dQpJiBe13X++PC5Lps/S8WMtZRtmd2vbaIcHixzimBdvi1 hPcTPJjIPEQon2BwwFxId4tzx56qglrwFovZfFZV7U0+qZjvwh+UI9ZKbNgOndkdJf1Hld0I R4PIEQ3H5IIaKoFcNBaXB6fWqR19e8gidBeZRbMszYiaGGtltv+OKuqXxGUTA7siVCxaY9U4 Z2TJi0BvsBbaDyDjMw3/xQCd0vNtJ5TNI5kuUaPf1tPFGzC/Hcwru5iri7K3U4/BNH+izbkB DQRczLlQAQgAlhC1oZUt2fdgCpjLWVEPj8sc1uqoyiicW/oGDirXqyJKRfPn6vWI5W7otBOY NSJyISNi7IuXRcRnSVkWGf5w4nOO1PFRgxWvVd8LgJ2T6ykA8oqYNN6opwcyvDTQwC+cVOYl f1Mbmz3Lg9bmMvbBu5P9w/raxV2A6Q9Hq7eSvHbfiyR5S8CBZ3Al9cYd8tp7mZXQuyShxNKJ s59K1BU5JMKvRhX1jVS0x4XFtZSU536UtPj/IAV4LGaDaZGUsWHfyeaG94/ZmTtuYmuGqchH u0clClnHCmkv+CcIMBHeSp4CVjq9o7BHYdFSXE+An8XoOycNo0am9mxNPW7Vc/qhXwARAQAB iQE2BBgBCAAgAhsMFiEEIoJrn47KEjxeB5CF95cXLotfKhkFAlzMuqQACgkQ95cXLotfKhlU mwf6AvSkjYo9Ma1TsFRL4EJA7snf6Y294E1H41MeDQ4t4ciLV1S60zBAJ68rOd8zMJ+7IvYh V/SPSvOFFXoePHKk+hNhnvZfrk9rd1QdjB69SNeHmVi/1KTIaLuNfsngsgL1KO53qBmfQyiw Y/1OddfZjZXvZtfSEGi4JVtSF3JXWVe9et80c0Zrg1X6PFSueqCw2uzX2gWRLrcMEFKQfPn8 Hs6Gf7/+m/8F+xghXYBqjjIbcXLps4wBdXfSuGNG3DFlTg3YBFcWYJAt92BnPZGxXl9LWljP Ar7ZE5lEwqklwNtGX0sWd6wbpv0BILz+ENGOXnwMapyyiWlCG8avBPM//g== Message-ID: <5894ef55-29e1-05cd-6359-e84e779cded0@suszko.eu> Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 13:35:26 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200512132155.dfaccc07.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oPhGeWdYwqKiHtphf6QhdJGowdqt3wwHT" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49Lwj628kFz46PX X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=suszko.eu header.s=dkim header.b=s/VKnPNT; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=suszko.eu; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of maciej@suszko.eu designates 2001:41d0:2:8316::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=maciej@suszko.eu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.71 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[suszko.eu:s=dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.987,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/mixed,text/plain]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[suszko.eu:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[suszko.eu,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+,3:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:2001:41d0::/32, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(1.38)[ipnet: 2001:41d0::/32(4.90), asn: 16276(1.99), country: FR(-0.00)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[38.198.72.89.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 11:35:39 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --oPhGeWdYwqKiHtphf6QhdJGowdqt3wwHT Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="nzX7JTBU5C8N7nKvfs4RLXcAVUMLCCrQs" --nzX7JTBU5C8N7nKvfs4RLXcAVUMLCCrQs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/12/20 1:21 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 12 May 2020 07:11:16 -0400, Jerry wrote: >> It is my understanding that FreeBSD does not support Google Chrome. >> That is not Microsoft's fault. That is a failure on the part of >> FreeBSD. You should be taking the problem up with them, or perhaps >> Google. Whether there is no one willing to maintain the port, or a >> systemic failure on the part of FreeBSD is the real question here. >=20 > As Chrome, unlike Chromium, is not distributed in source form > (i. e., it is not open source), distribution would only be > possible as a binary blob, as for example nVidia does it. > The interesting question could be: Why does nVidia provide > a binary blob used by the FreeBSD port, and Google does not? > You would guess that a graphics driver is much more dependent > on bein tied closely both to the OS and to X, whereas a web > browser is, more or less, "just" a user application program > that should be quite portable. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> The bottom line is this in not Microsoft's fault. >=20 > That is correct. Chrome is supported, Chromium is not. > And Chrome is not Chromium. And not Firefox. What's the difference between Chrome and Chromium that is a stopper for Microsoft to support this browser? What's wrong with Firefox that it can't be used... or maybe what it lacks? So we have the situation having two modern browsers mostly useless in such web applications. --=20 regards, Maciej Suszko. --nzX7JTBU5C8N7nKvfs4RLXcAVUMLCCrQs-- --oPhGeWdYwqKiHtphf6QhdJGowdqt3wwHT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIoJrn47KEjxeB5CF95cXLotfKhkFAl66if4ACgkQ95cXLotf Khl27ggAo3PyKOlBLNgZLH77Mkt36i6ITwDqPeRO1ydtr4Hqc6pbYHLBPaasQwRw ywiKgVkrkWAjWEJFegA+KZirdgzr/Cx/GRAOq0ccEkbaxBZMbzjzUcTfBHRdcmFB aL3FeDz0Gw3eNsliuwtGWDH2CnOaUCBF5TgTswt2jk8ytilQl6xOw3wvsPFaZM+N bvZWs8lcsWcIe3qkGTf5M0C9BYJuG/UkYXQsD6ITyrnLYt14B44k/rs7oswsOakC ooOgdHFEo5uTD5YiiYZ1er9WKXVKoUYNzqKZXTqh8ROD1t/7SaGIDCZtqbsQdlB9 A8msNKUT9cnJ5DfNNniN0y0WDEzFmQ== =axcm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oPhGeWdYwqKiHtphf6QhdJGowdqt3wwHT--