From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 17:30:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A7416A4DE for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:30:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.acuson.com (ac17860.acuson.com [157.226.71.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9117643D39 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:30:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com ([157.226.230.209]:4170) by zeus.acuson.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1AzQdz-0005o9-40; Fri, 05 Mar 2004 17:30:23 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:21:47 -0800 Received: from dhcp-46-107.acuson.com ([157.226.46.107]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id GFNW1Q1G; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:20:35 -0800 From: Johnson David To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Organization: Siemens Medical Systems Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:28:21 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <9C6E1232-6EED-11D8-9CD3-000A959A1868@mac.com> <20040305164650.2de84cad@vixen42.> In-Reply-To: <20040305164650.2de84cad@vixen42.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200403051728.21133.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *1AzQdz-0005o9-40*QhCBpfIHIYI* cc: Vulpes Velox Subject: Re: FreeBSD Most wanted X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 01:30:43 -0000 On Friday 05 March 2004 02:46 pm, Vulpes Velox wrote: > > I love FreeBSD, but the applications it runs need a little catching > > up to do if it wants to compete with its cousin. On that sort of > > desktop, anyway. > > LOL, for home use... not really... Time to insert a plug for KDE. While FreeBSD is not ready for home use due to system administration stuff, the desktop is ready. Now before people start jumping all over me, please note that I distinguish systems administration tasks from desktop tasks. For the former you still need to know how to use a command line editor. For the latter we're already there. Juk is comparable to iTunes. It's not identical to iTunes, especially in the "pay to download" department, but for your typical user it's more than adequate. Ripping audio is as simple as dragging ogg and mp3 files out of the CD directory. Drag them right on to Juk if you want! This is easier than Windows by a long shot. I've had a Windows user's jaw hit the floor when he saw that. There is no reason we have to hang our heads in shame whenever the Windows or Mac desktops are mentioned. While FreeBSD can't do everything the other guy can, don't forget that the other guy can't do everything FreeBSD with KDE/GNOME can. Remember, 99% of the users never use 99% of the functionality of an application. We dont' need CYMK photo prepress functionality in GIMP before it's usable in the home! Cheers, David