From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 21 19:34:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D842106566C for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E528FC12 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nBLJYYhi044855; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:34:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:34:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:34:34 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: alex Message-ID: <20091221193434.GA16112@thought.org> References: <4B2F5973.8050003@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20091221151249.GA60183@ei.bzerk.org> <4B2FAD1A.6010405@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4B2FAD1A.6010405@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ethic.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ld-elf related problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:34:38 -0000 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 04:15:06AM +1100, alex wrote: > Ruben de Groot wrote: > >So? It's just an OS. Some will switch to linux and try to make that better. > >Thats evolution. > > > I hate linux to be honest, I have always highly praised FreeBSD to my > friends and colleagues in the industry. But sadly enough, linux is > performing significantly better in a number of areas than FreeBSD at the > moment (yes I know the reasons why there is no zfs on linux, funny isnt > it). This stupid licensing issue with the gnu development tools is a > major setback, what will it take before someone says "Hey, gcc 4.2.x can > no longer produce code that makes us competitive performance wise with > other open source operating systems ,we need to upgrade"? > > Are we going to wait years on end until llvm is mature enough? > I don't think this just me echoing your ideas, but they do jibe with my experience with FBSD since 1995. As a server, things-BSD are unbeatable. As a desktop, bzzzt. Ubuntu wins there; mostly for fun-stuff, true. Audio/video apps just work. HEre, it's beyond painful. And having gone thru a torturous 7+ week server migration, I don' need no mo' misery. --That coughed up, I have to add that the friendships and support of this tiny bunc hh of geek has been outstanding. just my two penny's worth, gary, who iss still testing things. ...... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.79a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php