From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jan 19 18:15:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from inconnu.isu.edu (inconnu.isu.edu [134.50.8.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F5E37B400; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:15:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (galt@localhost) by inconnu.isu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14793; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:15:10 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:15:10 -0700 (MST) From: John Galt Reply-To: To: Brett Glass Cc: Brad Knowles , Greywolf , Jeremy Lea , Kris Kirby , , Subject: Re: Why did NetBSD and FreeBSD diverge? In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010119101922.0485c720@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Brett Glass wrote: >At 10:10 AM 1/19/2001, Brad Knowles wrote: > >> Right, everyone who opposes or disagrees with Brett is inherently evil. I think we've heard this somewhere before. > >Yes. It's a statement commonly used to brand someone you are attacking >as "delusional" (as you do later in your message). Well, what's sauce for the goose... >[Snip] > >> My personal reason for opposing you most of the time is that I find you an excessively annoying and tedious person to deal with, > >I'm terribly sorry if you find it "annoying and tedious" that I will >not sit idly by while others attack me. I think it's my right to respond. YOU attacked ME, and I only responded after a couple of months of allowing you unhindered rein to lie, cheat, and steal, so yes, >I< DO expect you to shut up and not respond. >[Snip] > >> And with that, I think I'm about ready to killfile you, too. I believe that I am a rather tolerant person, and I've only ever killfiled two other people in my whole life with Unix (dating back to 1984), but there's only so much from you that even I am willing to put up with. > >Another common element of the piling-on and shunning that occurs >frequently here: a dramatic declration that the attacker is adding the >person being attacked to his kill file (and an implicit request to others >to do likewise). Funny, the only thing that I see resembling a pile around here is you, you steaming pile of maggot-ridden faeces. >> The worst of it is, in this particular case I think you have a valid point about there being a certain atmosphere of hazing with regards to the FreeBSD project -- maybe not from the committers themselves, but certainly by other people who are on the mailing lists and presumably have been on the mailing lists for some time. > >And yet you're not introspective enough to recognize that you're >participating in it. Perhaps he is, perhaps I am, but I can pretty much guarantee he and I have nothing in common except the fact that both of us despise you. >>Sadly, this point has now gotten lost in the noise that you have generated about yourself. > >Funny: looking back at this thread, it looks more as if you and a few others >have been generating noise about me. When I entered the conversation, I >merely agreed with a previous poster that the FreeBSD community had problems >with hazing and shunning. It's ironic that the exchange has become >self-referential. Add me to your kill file (which, of course, you're free >to do), and you'll prove that you're part of the same phenomenon. The noise generated about you is mostly due to your own actions. You made the bed, and I hope that you like being adopted. I for one will NOT shun you: I have better things to do with you, like adopt you as my own personal flamebait. >--Brett > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > -- Who is John Galt? Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product. -- Ferenc Mantfeld To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message