From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed May 31 06:42:21 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA06198 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 31 May 1995 06:42:21 -0700 Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA06192 ; Wed, 31 May 1995 06:42:20 -0700 Received: from ast.com by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQysck10950; Wed, 31 May 1995 09:42:17 -0400 Received: from trsvax.fw.ast.com (fw.ast.com) by ast.com with SMTP id AA15772 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for uunet!freebsd.org!current); Wed, 31 May 1995 06:42:34 -0700 Received: by trsvax.fw.ast.com (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.1) id ; Wed, 31 May 95 08:44 CDT Received: by nemesis.lonestar.org (Smail3.1.27.1 #18) id m0sGo0D-0004w1C; Wed, 31 May 95 08:40 CDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 31 May 95 08:40 CDT To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG From: uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com (Frank Durda IV) Sent: Wed May 31 1995, 08:40:05 CDT Subject: Problems with 2.0.5-Alpha Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I have two existing systems that were running SNAP-0412 without incident that I have tried to install 2.0.5-Alpha on. This has been a failure. The system is a DEC 1027, also known as a GRid 433, also known as a Tandy 4833, also, well you get the idea. These are 486DX-33 systems, with external cache modules, 8Meg RAM, a single 540 IDE drive. No SCSI, CD-ROMs removed, WD8013 network card (0x2, 0x280, 0xd400), standard COM1, COM2, LPT1 and nothing else. OAK or WDC VGA adapters, depending on the machine. With 8Meg present (what they have had for months), I note on the F2 screen that dozens of processes are aborting with: Process 402 Killed by vm_pageout -- out of swap The installation appears to be working although many help files appear missing. I expected some to be missing, but not all - the true error may be a killed process rather than a missing file. Anyway, the installation gets to "Making device files" and just sits there forever. I suspect it didn't actually make file systems as that step reportedly took about one second. I halted the system and added memory from an identical system, bringing it up to 12 Meg thinking the additional RAM might avoid the swap altogether. But now the system starts up: Booting the kernelel...done (yes, it is displayed that way) BIOS basemem (639K) != RTC basemem (640K) and it just hangs at this point. So I tried 4Meg, as the system is supposed to work with just 4Meg. The system also hangs after the BIOS BASEMEM message. So I returned to 8Meg memory size and it boots but by monitoring screen 2 it is obvious it is killing processes left and right, starting with process 6. Then I switched to 16Meg. It also hangs. But if I move the same plug-in memory board loaded with the 16Meg on it to the second machine, that system gets a trap when booting 2.0.5-Alpha: Booting the kernel BIOS basemem (639K) != RTC basemem (640K) Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x1c fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf0186235 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL=0 current process = 0 () interrupt mask = net tty bio panic: page fault hit reset please This is 100% reproducible on one system and doesn't seem to happen on the other. The only difference was that the machine that paniced had video shadowing disabled in the BIOS. Again, both these systems ran 1.1.5.1, and all the SNAPs since February and have been used for numerous "make worlds" without incident. The system with the panic hasn't had its hard disk wiped yet, so after the panic, I simply let the system boot the last snap from hard disk and it ran fine with no hardware changes at all with the 16Meg present. So with 2.0.5-Alpha, neither system runs at all unless exactly 8Meg is present and it gets out of swap errors with 8Meg present. Constructive suggestions are welcome and I'll be happy to try any experiments to resolve this. Fastest address is uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com Frank Durda IV |"The Knights who say "LETNi" or uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com (Fastest Route)| demand... A SEGMENT REGISTER!!!" ...letni!rwsys!nemesis!uhclem |"A what?" ...decvax!fw.ast.com!nemesis!uhclem |"LETNi! LETNi! LETNi!" - 1983