From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 15 17:13: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA1714C46 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:13:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA29979; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:12:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-89.tnt1.rac.cyberlynk.net(209.224.182.89) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma029977; Wed Sep 15 19:12:30 1999 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990915191149.01dde1e0@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:11:49 -0500 To: Mike Smith From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: Vinum performance testing... Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199909152109.OAA02151@dingo.cdrom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:09 PM 9/15/99 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: >Perhaps we're seeing this differently, but "sworn off vinum" says to me >"never using it again", and that's the point I was trying to make. >People try something that's still under development, get bitten, and >then claim forever after that the product is dangerous, regardless of >whether or not it's subsequently fixed. Well Greg considers it a "release" anyway and no longer alpha. Surely it may be "under development" still, but then isn't -stable? This thread could be as much about someone swearing off -stable, since they might try building when something is broken. >This is a _major_ image issue. Especially since it made it's debut in 3.0R and it's been mostly bug fixes and the addition of the RAID 5 code. >> I am sure >> when vinum is more robust and less likely to much your data for dinner >> he, and many other people who use FreeBSD in situations where data loss >> is not an option, will reconsider it's use. > >I'm not convinced of this, but worse still are the people that, having >read Michael's message, or turned it up in a year's time, will never >assess it for themselves because they're scared off by these >unqualified comments. Yep, but that's the way people are. A Linux user I know is moving from Redhat to Slackware and it surprised me, since it was a royal pain to install. That was about 5 years ago. Long memory. Would still mention his preference change despite my aversion, but then I quite happy with what I run. 8-) It should be rather needless to say that there are a lot things one can do (incorrectly) that will turn you data into dinner, lunch, or trash. The 2 arguements here are unsubstantiated. "I heard that..." Bah! Hopefully the searching would turn up the more significant number of successes and minor problems that Greg usually responds very quickly to. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve '86 Yamaha MaxiumX (not FBSD powered) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message