From owner-cvs-all Mon Dec 28 09:10:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20344 for cvs-all-outgoing; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:10:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20338 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:10:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (IDENT:WHAT_THE_HELL_YOU_LOOKING_AT_@d60-077.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.77]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA28248 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:10:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA22370 for committers@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:10:06 GMT (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:10:06 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The recent fracas involving danes, war axes and wounded developers Message-ID: <19981228091006.A22233@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu References: <199812280853.QAA63951@spinner.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199812280853.QAA63951@spinner.netplex.com.au>; from Peter Wemm on Mon, Dec 28, 1998 at 04:53:10PM +0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > 3: KLD's have been installed and used in preference to LKM's for quite a > while now. Many people are using KLD's instead of LKM's *already* without > being aware of it - a.out kernels included. If the commit message had said "hey guys check out kldstat and modstat -- you'll be surprised that you are already using it, so don't worry". > 4: The LKM loading mechanism has been within an inch of being broken beyond > repair a number of times over the last few months and it's sheer luck that > the mechanism has remained working. And this also. Once understading the pain of maintaining LKM's at this point, one can understand and would probably do the same. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message