From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 21:30:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E03A16A41F for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 21:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A51C13C458 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 21:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id u2so34529uge for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 14:30:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EH/MqP4y32fJwXgS0hHyJ6HBhlBwZyFOvFbY14CG8iod2wTrupO8MkbRDrgkjbaQaNP1g2yejkhMn7//mJaUIvxeyEqAQ07l7WK7HvFR0WgqNQVSmMkyzc7pou8mozqaE4x/uHY5p36jkGisMF2eYtr/gQpgnP6iUlugycLFJDQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Hy7EuYFH2mkZdIDOTyxoG7drToCAH09LXqi6MQHPwsKigc/MyVg06EWwsjqq1RYBEJDuRoX7MMj57b1JJfHFqFimb8icUR3lsEp9Xh+6Mb75FMp5pIUIcDmLXYh3LJhER3BW1ymZdZIyvnlYm/9YSu0TZ8/OZcUatvCiXWuHKR0= Received: by 10.67.30.3 with SMTP id h3mr47755ugj.1180474201038; Tue, 29 May 2007 14:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.114.20 with HTTP; Tue, 29 May 2007 14:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <474078f80705291430u414e6261mcc203e43ea83e8bb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 14:30:00 -0700 From: "Murray Stokely" To: "Wolfram Schneider" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200705101146.56279.jhb@freebsd.org> Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The search box on www.freebsd.org.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 21:30:03 -0000 On 5/10/07, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 5/10/07, John Baldwin wrote: > > SUCKS/BLOWS CHUNKS/etc. > > > > Really, it's bad. I just typed in 'logo' to find the page about logo usage, > > and it returned 0 results, not even http://www.freebsd.org/logo.html. That's > > exceedingly lame. > > You typed an evil query which crashed the search program with signal 11. > ('logos' works fine). > > The search program was written long time ago in C, a language with > a terrible memory management. You have to spend half of your > development time fixing memory leaks and off-by-one buffer bugs. 15 > years ago nobody cared about bad C programming style. > > Feel free to debug our search program. I don't have the time myself. > > > Its worse than having no search box at all because people > > will try to _use_ it and then get frustrated. It should either be killed, or > > it should be replaced with something that actually _works_ (probably it > > should make use of Y!, Google, or Rambler.ru something to do the search). > > you know how few pages are indexed by google? Usually less than 10-50% > of a web site. This can be addressed with sitemaps [1]. Y! claims ~5 million indexed freebsd.org pages. Do we know how many documents are in our home grown search corpus? I think we should switch the search bar to using google or Y!, just as NetBSD does. - Murray [1] http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/