From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 24 09:43:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18BA16A4CF; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:43:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5502443FDD; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:43:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAOHhNvX064240; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:43:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hAOHhNKn064239; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:43:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:43:23 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Robert Watson Message-ID: <20031124174323.GB64058@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Robert Watson , current@freebsd.org References: <20031124092346.F63116@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: current@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:43:28 -0000 On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 10:47:24AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > It strikes me that this whole conversation has gotten a little > confrontational... The "middle ground" of adding a static /sbin/sh for > scripts soudds like a reasonable choice, and has precedent in other > systems (Solaris). Time for a pdksh import! We can install it as the dynamic /bin/sh, and there is precedent in other systems (Solaris) for /bin/ksh. The issue with static /sbin/sh is that we have to fix all the base scripts (doable), and then try to educate people that they need to do the same to their scripts (very hard to do). > Someone must be using /bin/sh as a shell, because apparently someone > spent a lot of time adding things like character input editing, > filename completion, etc. Filename complete isn't in stock /bin/sh as its a private hack someone did, it is a hack and isn't commitable.