From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 09:23:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E5916A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:23:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B277A43D31 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:23:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j0M9Ndj17534; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:23:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:23:38 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <41F20629.8080307@taborandtashell.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: Which Way to Partition. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:23:44 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Tabor Kelly [mailto:tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net] > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:52 PM > To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey > Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; hindrich@worldchat.com; stheg olloydson; > freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: Which Way to Partition. > > > Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > On Friday, 21 January 2005 at 22:14:13 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > > Can we try to change that? > > Indeed. My first post to this email list (since I have been > back from a > 3 year hiatus) was a question about the infamous portsdb > -uU/portupgrade > -uU segfault. My reward for coming back to this list was an > angry email > from Don Novello (spam@black-star.net). > > Also, if you are going to tell people that they posted duplicate > messages, do you need to send that to the whole email list? The message to stheg was people that throw rocks should not live in glass houses, a message he quite obviously understood since he has wisely refrained from responding. The message to the rest of the list was that it isn't nice to criticize people for baloney items, and that if you do so, others are going to come after you. I have found that sort of response to be more effective in the long run to use a ruler to snap the fingers than to make pious hand-wringing or whiny limp appeals to play nice. And I don't mind being called an a-hole for doing it. As a matter of fact, the more people that criticize me for criticizing stheg, the more of a nasty a-hole I look like, which greatly enhances my effectiveness for making people like stheg who start the rock-throwing to quake in their shoes and be more afraid of starting the rock throwing. So, thanks for the cirticism! Perhaps you and some others could give me some more so as to make me an even more effective deterrent to sthenglike behavior :-) Although of course you must not construe this statement as a statement that I wish to interfere with your rights to make as many pious hand-wringing or whiny limp appeals to be nice as you feel necessary, should you feel the need to make pious hand-wringing or whiny limp appeals to be nice, that is. Sorry to have to be so blunt publically, I'm not trying to embarass you, but clearly since you didn't get this, others may have not also. Thus I feel this message also should go for public distribution. Is that enough justification for ccing questions? By the way, could we possibly have more metadiscussion please? You know, I heard this last Christmas there was a sick kid that all he wanted for Christmas was for everyone to send him a Christmas card.... At least one good thing is we can tell old TM8675309@aol that we now have unimpeachable proof that FreeBSD must not have nay problems anymore since there's so few problems people are posting about now that we are now posting about posting about posting!!! ;-) Ted