From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 07:23:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D826B106566C; Tue, 29 May 2012 07:23:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [94.124.105.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505088FC08; Tue, 29 May 2012 07:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EEA2842A; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:13:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (static-84-242-120-26.net.upcbroadband.cz [84.242.120.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 05E3428427; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:13:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FC4771A.2020209@quip.cz> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 09:13:30 +0200 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton References: <4FBA618A.1050707@freebsd.org> <20120521155736.GA79323@DataIX.net> <4FBA6FEB.1000706@quip.cz> <4FC45D40.4060200@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4FC45D40.4060200@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Michael Scheidell , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP 5.4.0 : lang/php54 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 07:23:20 -0000 Doug Barton wrote: > On 5/21/2012 9:40 AM, Miroslav Lachman wrote: >> I think that the best will be to not have any default "php5" port and >> just use php52, php53, php54, php5X, php60... as we have apache20, >> apache22, apache24, or mysql50-server, mysql51-server, mysql55-server. >> >> There is no default apache2 or mysql5-server, so there is no confusion >> what is / what will be installed. >> >> Then it can be choosed in make.conf what version will be used as >> default, similar to WITH_MYSQL_VER=51 or APACHE_PORT=www/apache22 > > I have been advocating for this for years. IMO we shouldn't have *any* > unversioned ports for things that have multiple simultaneous versions > supported. I've actually done this for the things I support (most > notably bind*) for a long time, and have never had a single user complaint. > > OTOH, the user confusion, broken systems, and generally huge amount of > hassle caused by moving the default version of an important port like > php to one that isn't compatible with the previous default only has > downsides. > > In the days when the total number of ports, and the number of versioned > ports, were both much smaller, the idea of a "default" version made > sense. Neither has been true for a decade or more. Maybe it's time to make the rules and write them in to the Porter's Handbook and/or Committers guide. I don't know who can make this decision. Miroslav Lachman