From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Jan 31 20:09:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13789 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:09:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13768; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:09:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id UAA19531; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:09:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from bubba.whistle.com( 207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V2.0) id xma019526; Sun, 31 Jan 99 20:09:13 -0800 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id UAA25204; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:09:13 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199902010409.UAA25204@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: If they US contingent wants ISDN4BSD... In-Reply-To: from Hellmuth Michaelis at "Jan 31, 99 10:08:07 am" To: hm@kts.org Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:09:13 -0800 (PST) Cc: phk@FreeBSD.ORG, isdn@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hellmuth Michaelis writes: > > Or better yet, somebody should give him ssh access to a machine > > that's connected to a real ISDN line and has a Teles card in it... > > With $499 PC's for sale, that'd probably be cheaper :-) > > Take volume IP internet access charges and telephone costs ("hey, > please write down the panic output and press reset ....") into > account and you'll end up with something horrible expensive > for that solution - phk's idea is much cheaper, easier and faster > (also, such a device is just needed for the development time, after > that it may go back to where it came from. Debugging should be > no problem with that $499 setup). > > Not to talk about that the one in the US will probably not pick up > his phone anymore after 10 such calls at 3 o'clock in the morning > US time. > > Having written, bootstrapped and debugged the i4b stack, i am quite > shure that developing a US stack remotely with such a setup makes > no sense at all (for me). I guess you're right. Having that reset button sure is handy :-) But just for fun, I'd like to point out that once you got the hardware driver debugged and working as a netgraph node (i.e., just doing the Layer 1 part), then you could do all the Layer 2 and Layer 3 debugging in user space :-) -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message