From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Feb 24 21:42:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07252 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:42:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07202 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:41:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18191; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:39:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802250539.VAA18191@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: jak@cetlink.net (John Kelly) cc: Greg Lehey , Chris Dillon , Adam Turoff , hackers , Robert Glover Subject: Re: Token Ring for FreeBSD yet? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 25 Feb 1998 06:27:07 GMT." <34f4b8d8.6646364@mail.cetlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:39:05 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:24:11 +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > > >On a normal network, a 10Mbit Ethernet network could outrun a 16Mbit > >Token Ring network, simply because of the token-passing scheme that > >Token Ring uses. > > >token passing isn't very efficient under any kind of load. > > Can you back this up with performance test data? > > It doesn't jive at all with test results Tolly published several years > ago in Data Communications. He said token ring would run at full 16mb > wire speed while Ethernet would degrade to 7mb because of collisions. Empirical data indicates that useful throughput on Ethernet varies enormously as a function of traffic types. Giving a single number for throughput is a pretty damning conviction of any set of conclusions. This is more or less established Ethernet lore. If you'd ever seen Greg's shed, you'd believe the data was there. At any rate, given that he spent far too long working for Tandem I'd be inclined to give the claim some credibility. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message