From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 27 14:58:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from crunch.shivakaul.com (unknown [166.84.151.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B61F37B400 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 38233 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jan 2001 04:07:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO taco) (192.168.0.2) by 166.84.151.100 with SMTP; 27 Jan 2001 04:07:58 -0000 Message-ID: <003601c088b5$6f7d13a0$0200a8c0@taco> From: "shivak" To: "Scott Pilz" Cc: "freebsd-questions" References: Subject: Re: Mail Servers On Free-BSD Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:04:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a 200mhz pentium pro w/ 384 mb ram and a few SCSI disks running as a mail server. It runs *very* fast. It has FreeBSD, qmail-smtp, and qmail-pop3d. The Qmail daemons support a great new format of mailbox's called Maildir (the mail for a user goes under ~/Maildir/). This approach solves the speed problem, and also boasts increased security and reliability. Of course, this is a setup that makes concessions for users that actually login. As far as qmail goes, it works great - I find everything about it superior to sendmail...I think it is missing a few features, but they are certainly not *that* important as my setup works flawlessly. Hope this helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Pilz" To: Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 12:40 PM Subject: Mail Servers On Free-BSD > I e-mailed Procmail's lists, and got a few answers, but I would like to > hear what other BSD-users/coders have to say, as they have helped me out > so much in the past. > > We need a new mail server. BSD platform, that will handle over 10k users. > > I do *want* to run Sendmail. As I am somewhat familer with it's inner > workings. I have tried QMail's SMTP however I just, ... do not like it > (perhaps I do not know it, perhaps I do not want to know it, but it's just > not in my taste right now). > > I have been told, that you do not want to run QPopper. It is soposedly > very very slow. > > Now, I have seen this in fact. A SunOS server with QPopper and sendmail -- > they have all mail in /var/mail, and their mail server IS slow. Well, it's > no wonder that it is slow, as they have over 9k users in /var/mail. Would > that not slow down I/O to the point where it is noticible? > > In QPopper, there is a way to make the structure like this: > > /var/mail/a/a/ > /var/mail/a/b/ > /var/mail/a/c/ > etc. so that the user 'test' would be put in: > /var/mail/t/e/test > > However, the local mail delivery agent, in this case procmail, I do not > belives supports this, so it's not going to work. > > I was told by ProcMail's list that I should run qmail-pop3d as my pop3 > server, and on top of that, was told that is mearly because of the I/O > speed in /var/mail if everyone is there. > > HOWEVER.. In Qpopper and procmail, I can set it in such a way that they > will be delivered to their home directory instead: > > /var/mail/t/test <- Home for all t's > /var/mail/a/apple <-Home for all a's > > etc. > > Would this not basically do the exact same thing? Making things faster? > > Now let me tell you the box that I will have running ... (maybe > /var/mail/$user won't be so bad on this box anywyas? You let me know).. > 800mhz PIII > 1g Ram, > SCSI ultra-fast drives ... > > Thanks. > > -Scott > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message