From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jun 21 7:34:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from ns3.safety.net (ns3.safety.net [216.200.162.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A32837B6BB for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 07:34:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from les@ns3.safety.net) Received: (from les@localhost) by ns3.safety.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA70138; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 07:34:05 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from les) From: Les Biffle Message-Id: <200006211434.HAA70138@ns3.safety.net> Subject: Re: Conflict between Intel 82558/9 and VIA MVP4? In-Reply-To: <20000621145820.A20728@chuggalug.clues.com> from Geoff Buckingham at "Jun 21, 2000 02:58:20 pm" To: geoffb@chuggalug.clues.com (Geoff Buckingham) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 07:34:05 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Reply-To: les@safety.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Geoff, > Excuse me if I have missed something obviouse ( I havn't had a lot to > do with PC hardware recently.) Is your 'riser' a customer part of the > board or something that just plugs into an existing PCI slot. If the > later I **ASSUME** (and may be wrong) that it is a PCI to PCI bridge > itself. It's an assembly provided by the manufacturer, and plugs perpendicularly into two in-line edge connectors on the motherboard. Those connectors are the same type connector as PCI connectors, but have more signals on them, making them non-standard. The riser card has two PCI slots, an ISA slot and a Realtek 8129B NIC on it, but no bridge chip. Since the two PCI-looking slots on the M/B are having to deliver the PCI signals, ISA signals, and the request and grant signals for each PCI slot and NIC, I must assume that neither is a "real" PCI slot, and dare not try a NIC in one. My "dream" riser would have a bridge for its slots, of course. Or my dream teensy M/B would have 3 10/100 NICs and a single PCI slot. Anybody know of one? > Leading to the questions does the fxp work in the PCI slot without the > riser? The 3COM cyclone devices don't work in the riser either, leading me to suspect a poor design by my supplier. Slow NICs (the Realteks) and WAN cards from Sangoma seem to work fine in either riser slot. > Are others successfully using that PCI-PCI bridge with an fxp When squeezed, the manufacturer admits that there might have been a trouble report on this once upon a time. They're sending a different M/B and riser for us to try. Regards, -Les -- Les Biffle Community Service... Just Say NO! (480) 778-0177 les@safety.net http://www.les.safety.net/ Network Safety, 7802 E Gray Rd Ste 500, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message