From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 30 19:09:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EF7106567E for ; Sat, 30 May 2009 19:09:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1A48FC1C for ; Sat, 30 May 2009 19:08:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 17615 invoked from network); 30 May 2009 19:08:59 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 30 May 2009 19:08:59 -0000 Message-ID: <4A218479.1090207@telenix.org> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 15:09:45 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel Flynn References: <200905292311.58235.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200905292311.58235.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Greylisting and new posters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 19:09:00 -0000 Mel Flynn wrote: > All (including David with his kick-ass postmaster hat), > > while off-topic, flames and other non sense covered by Freedom of Speech are > an annoyance to many, I'm more bothered by some newcomers to the list that are > being greylisted on first post and instantly hit the resend button. Especially > since a technical solution is possible in 90% of the cases (there are a few > people that don't resend, but re-edit). > > Is it possible to: > a) Put a big-red-blink-popup-attentiongrabbing monster text into the > subscription page about first posts being delayed with a link to greylisting? > b) Hash the bodies of greylisted messages and reject / discard if the same > body with a different msg id is being received? > > I'd be happy to contribute to b) if it is thought that the incoming mailer can > handle the hashing and storage of this information. Seems to me that the particular problem you're referring to doesn't really happen all that often. Probably, the only thing that really might need another word or two is to make the services offered by FreeBSD-test list better advertised (it does still exist, right?) People can post all the test mail they want to that list. About 6 months ago, I recommended to an acquaintance that they make use of the FreeBSD-test list, and I actually saw the replies he got from some idiots subscribed to that list, complaining that my acquaintance used that list exactly like he was supposed to do. I wonder if maybe the list ought to have some feature like having it's subscribers list zeroed out once a week. It's then a pretty obvious problem which really could be dealt with in the new subscribers intro mail.