From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 23 21:19:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1692C16A41C for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:19:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5E143D1D for ; Mon, 23 May 2005 21:19:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Received: from drjekyll.mkbuelow.net (p54AAC468.dip.t-dialin.net [84.170.196.104]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAF12FE93; Mon, 23 May 2005 23:19:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.mkbuelow.net [IPv6:::1]) by drjekyll.mkbuelow.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j4NLLDO6002200; Mon, 23 May 2005 23:21:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Message-ID: <42924949.1070902@incubus.de> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 23:21:13 +0200 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050509) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <3248.172.16.0.199.1116876092.squirrel@172.16.0.1> <20050523195123.GA13810@xor.obsecurity.org> <3482.172.16.0.199.1116882013.squirrel@172.16.0.1> <20050523211307.GA36552@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20050523211307.GA36552@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 OpenPGP: id=6FF22C9F; url=http://www.mkbuelow.net/mkbkeys Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mike Jakubik , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Performance of 4.x vs 5.x (Re: Lifetime of FreeBSD branches) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 21:19:27 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > One thing that probably confuses and misleads a lot of people is when > they build world or a kernel and notice that it's taking much longer > than it did under 4.x, so they assume this means that 5.x is slower > than 4.x. It doesn't. What it means is that 5.x and 4.x have > different C compilers, and gcc 3.x is much slower at compiling code > than gcc 2.x. You have to be very careful to draw conclusions based > on subjective assessments like this. Another thing might be that interactive response time seems to be worse. While I (or rather ports) unpack the firefox/thunderbird source, the machine is pretty much bogged down (mouse cursor jumps around, audio stutters...). Haven't seen that on FreeBSD since the 386 days. mkb.