From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 16 14:15:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F289106566B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:15:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markm@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gromit.grondar.org (grandfather.grondar.org [93.89.92.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513078FC0A for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from uucp by gromit.grondar.org with local-rmail (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TDFY0-0007vQ-HN for freebsd-security@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:10:08 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=groundzero.grondar.org) by groundzero.grondar.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TDFVB-000Eyg-Pr; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:07:13 +0100 To: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= In-reply-to: <86fw6iyt9w.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <50453686.9090100@FreeBSD.org> <20120911082309.GD72584@dragon.NUXI.org> <504F0687.7020309@FreeBSD.org> <201209121628.18088.jhb@freebsd.org> <5050F477.8060409@FreeBSD.org> <20120912213141.GI14077@x96.org> <20120913052431.GA15052@dragon.NUXI.org> <86fw6iyt9w.fsf@ds4.des.no> From: Mark Murray From: Mark Murray Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:07:13 +0100 Message-Id: Cc: Arthur Mesh , Ian Lepore , Doug Barton , Ben Laurie , freebsd-security@freebsd.org, RW , "Bjoern A. Zeeb" Subject: Re: svn commit: r239569 - head/etc/rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:15:32 -0000 =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= writes: > Mark Murray writes: > > You have to rely on something; Yarrow needs some entropy to cold-start, > > and on a freshly installed OS, this is rocking-horse shit. This is > > where BIG problems start because it is at this time that (eg) SSH keys > > are built. We make some effort to get the user to "kayboard bash", but > > experience has shown that annoyed users screw up, and annoyed engineers > > are often worse. > > Look at the code, the "keyboard bash" hasn't worked since someone broke > it in 2006. Ah crap, thanks! :-( M -- Mark R V Murray Pi: 132511160