From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jul 24 18:50:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19193 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:50:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19149; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:49:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA07471; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 11:18:42 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id LAA17721; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 11:18:38 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980725111837.F716@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 11:18:37 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Brett Glass , Wes Peters , jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Summary of final changes to FreeBSD 2.2.7 References: <11967.901261832@time.cdrom.com> <35B8AA50.E49392DE@softweyr.com> <199807242234.QAA27752@lariat.lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199807242234.QAA27752@lariat.lariat.org>; from Brett Glass on Fri, Jul 24, 1998 at 04:34:18PM -0600 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 24 July 1998 at 16:34:18 -0600, Brett Glass wrote: > At 09:37 AM 7/24/98 -0600, you wrote: > >> Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >>> >>> As I previously announced, there were some problems encountered with >>> sysinstall in the 11th hour during our CDROM media testing which I >>> fixed, rolled an updated boot.flp for, and uploaded to the master FTP >>> site. >>> >>> I also fixed a problem I introduced at the last minute via a fumbled >>> file copy which caused the XF86Setup utility to be replaced by the >>> Japanese version (heh). In addition to this, I've just received >>> updated distribution tarballs from The XFree86 Project which merge all >>> of the 3.3.2.3 security updates directly into the "standard" tarballs >>> rather than having an extra update file (X3323upd.tgz) which needed to >>> be applied by hand. In other words, it's totally plug-and-play now. >>> Just install XFree86 as you normally would to get the latest security >>> fixes and the correct setup utility for your language. Since the >>> X332*upd.tgz files are now obsolete, they have also been removed. >>> >>> My apologies to those who were momentarily inconvenienced by this, but >>> c'mon, this is free software and a 24 hour turnaround time is pretty >>> good in any part of this industry! :-) >> >> 24-hour turnaround is incredible in this industry; most companies won't >> promise anything in 24 hours, and the few who do mostly promise just to >> have somebody *look at it* within 24 hours. >> >> Three cheers for Jordan, the release team, the core team, and everyone >> else associated with FreeBSD. I know each and every one of you are >> concentrating on keeping Doug White's workload as low as possible. ;^) > > Agree wholeheartedly; this shows both dedication and professionalism > on the part of Jordan and the rest of the team. > > Of course, since I'm upgrading production servers, what I'm REALLY > looking for is a "golden" release -- that is, a version that for > some reason (fate, luck, magic, sweat) came out more trouble-free > and stable than most after the last minute patches were applied. > I'm hoping 2.2.7 will be it, as it is unclear whether there will > be a 2.2.8 and I can't afford to gamble on -current on these > machines. While I agree with this sentiment, I think we should bear in mind that it could have been better. This time, for some reason, there were a lot of dissenting voices in the mailing lists. Didn't we use to do a Beta release? If Jordan had released 2.2.7 beta on Monday (or even the Wednesday before) and let people download it, within a week the rough edges would have been knocked off, there would have been less stress, and less idiots sending out messages saying that FreeBSD 2.2.7 was a load of shit. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message