From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 3 07:46:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500E61065699 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vova@sw.ru) Received: from relay.sw.ru (mailhub.sw.ru [195.214.232.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EFB8FC08 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vova@sw.ru) Received: from vbook.fbsd.ru ([10.30.1.111]) (authenticated bits=0) by relay.sw.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m937ks6s030044 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Oct 2008 11:46:55 +0400 (MSD) Received: from vova by vbook.fbsd.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KlfNG-000Bo0-DA; Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:46:54 +0400 From: Vladimir Grebenschikov To: Beech Rintoul In-Reply-To: <200810022334.02404.beech@freebsd.org> References: <200810030650.m936o55G018523@freefall.freebsd.org> <200810022334.02404.beech@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: SWsoft Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:46:54 +0400 Message-Id: <1223020014.1842.70.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Sender: Vladimir Grebenschikov Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/97326: [linux] file descriptor leakage in linux emulation X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 07:46:58 -0000 On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 23:33 -0800, Beech Rintoul wrote: > On Thursday 02 October 2008, Vladimir Grebenschikov said: > > The following reply was made to PR kern/97326; it has been noted by > > GNATS. > > > > > Probably, somebody encourages skype.com to build native FreeBSD > > version of skype ? > > That's something I'm lobbying for. As well as the port maintainer, I'm > also a member of Skype's closed beta team. I broached that subject > this summer when I met with Skype senior project people and devs. The > bottom line is the app is very tightly integrated and won't be an > easy port. Skype is willing to listen providing we can show them that > we (including the other BSD's) can show enough actual users to > justify the dev time on their part. I'm totally open for suggestions > on how to accomplish that, providing we have a large userbase in the > first place. Hm, i can suggest two ways: - usual web-petition, where interested people may leave a signatures - small change in Linux version of skype, that will report to skype actual OS even when skype runs under emulation. Probably counting number of OSS-based skype clients will give such number estimation even now (is there still many live linux desktops without ALSA ?). But this way will not count potential skype users who is blocked by emulation disadvantages (like second set of libraries in memory). As for real problem of "fair" skype porting I see lack of video framework (like V4L) on BSD. > Beech -- Vladimir B. Grebenschikov Parallels Inc. vova@parallels.com