From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 27 19:23:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E451CC50; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 19:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (glebius.int.ru [81.19.69.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cell.glebius.int.ru", Issuer "cell.glebius.int.ru" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B878CA5; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 19:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t1RJNAwQ036864 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:23:10 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t1RJNAVU036863; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:23:10 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cell.glebius.int.ru: glebius set sender to glebius@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:23:10 +0300 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: Adding new media types to if_media.h Message-ID: <20150227192310.GR17947@glebius.int.ru> References: <20150226230031.GN17947@glebius.int.ru> <201502270417.t1R4H37Y058057@mail.karels.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" , Eric Joyner , Jack Vogel , mike@karels.net, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 19:23:13 -0000 On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 08:25:59PM -0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: A> [snip] A> A> I think Mike's approach is good - it makes it easy to MFC to 10.2 A> since there's extended lifecycle stuff to do there - and then we can A> plan out how do the "betterer" fix after it's landed and churned A> things. ... and we will be ought to support the "betterer" fix along with the "not so betterer" for a very long time. The rock on which we split in this argument is that some developers write their code for stable/x and then forward-port it to head, focused on quality of result for stable/x; while other developers do the opposite: write code to head, then consider or not consider merging it stable/x. -- Totus tuus, Glebius.