From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jul 24 19:41:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24830 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:41:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.2.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24806; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:41:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (narn-1-158.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.136.32]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.9.0) id VAA22881; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:41:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id VAA00738; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:41:01 -0500 (CDT) From: "Frank Pawlak" Message-Id: <980725024100.ZM737@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 02:41:00 +0000 In-Reply-To: Greg Lehey "Re: Summary of final changes to FreeBSD 2.2.7" (Jul 25, 11:18am) References: <11967.901261832@time.cdrom.com> <35B8AA50.E49392DE@softweyr.com> <199807242234.QAA27752@lariat.lariat.org> <19980725111837.F716@freebie.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: Greg Lehey , Brett Glass , Wes Peters , jkh@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Summary of final changes to FreeBSD 2.2.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Jul 25, 11:18am, Greg Lehey wrote: > Subject: Re: Summary of final changes to FreeBSD 2.2.7 > On Friday, 24 July 1998 at 16:34:18 -0600, Brett Glass wrote: > > At 09:37 AM 7/24/98 -0600, you wrote: > > > >> Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > >>> > >>> As I previously announced, there were some problems encountered with > >>> sysinstall in the 11th hour during our CDROM media testing which I > >>> fixed, rolled an updated boot.flp for, and uploaded to the master FTP > >>> site. > >>> > >>> I also fixed a problem I introduced at the last minute via a fumbled > >>> file copy which caused the XF86Setup utility to be replaced by the > >>> Japanese version (heh). In addition to this, I've just received > >>> updated distribution tarballs from The XFree86 Project which merge all > >>> of the 3.3.2.3 security updates directly into the "standard" tarballs > >>> rather than having an extra update file (X3323upd.tgz) which needed to > >>> be applied by hand. In other words, it's totally plug-and-play now. > >>> Just install XFree86 as you normally would to get the latest security > >>> fixes and the correct setup utility for your language. Since the > >>> X332*upd.tgz files are now obsolete, they have also been removed. > >>> > >>> My apologies to those who were momentarily inconvenienced by this, but > >>> c'mon, this is free software and a 24 hour turnaround time is pretty > >>> good in any part of this industry! :-) > >> > >> 24-hour turnaround is incredible in this industry; most companies won't > >> promise anything in 24 hours, and the few who do mostly promise just to > >> have somebody *look at it* within 24 hours. > >> > >> Three cheers for Jordan, the release team, the core team, and everyone > >> else associated with FreeBSD. I know each and every one of you are > >> concentrating on keeping Doug White's workload as low as possible. ;^) > > > > Agree wholeheartedly; this shows both dedication and professionalism > > on the part of Jordan and the rest of the team. > > > > Of course, since I'm upgrading production servers, what I'm REALLY > > looking for is a "golden" release -- that is, a version that for > > some reason (fate, luck, magic, sweat) came out more trouble-free > > and stable than most after the last minute patches were applied. > > I'm hoping 2.2.7 will be it, as it is unclear whether there will > > be a 2.2.8 and I can't afford to gamble on -current on these > > machines. While agreeing with most of the above, my vote must be with Greg. We did a beta release with 2.2.6, and the release was a very solid one. A side benefit was the silence of the idiots. Frank > > While I agree with this sentiment, I think we should bear in mind that > it could have been better. This time, for some reason, there were a > lot of dissenting voices in the mailing lists. Didn't we use to do a > Beta release? If Jordan had released 2.2.7 beta on Monday (or even > the Wednesday before) and let people download it, within a week the > rough edges would have been knocked off, there would have been less > stress, and less idiots sending out messages saying that FreeBSD 2.2.7 > was a load of shit. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message >-- End of excerpt from Greg Lehey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message