From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 10:09:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1982D16A4CF for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:09:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.covadmail.net (mx05.covadmail.net [63.65.120.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4274943FBF for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from strick@covad.net) Received: (covad.net 22548 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2003 18:08:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ice.nodomain) (67.101.98.159) by sun-qmail15 with SMTP; 30 Oct 2003 18:08:51 -0000 Received: from ice.nodomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ice.nodomain (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9UI8qmk000348; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:08:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@ice.nodomain) Received: (from dan@localhost) by ice.nodomain (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h9UI8qaZ000347; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:08:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:08:52 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Strick Message-Id: <200310301808.h9UI8qaZ000347@ice.nodomain> To: scottl@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3FA0B460.7090008@freebsd.org> cc: dan@ice.nodomain cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.9 is now available X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:09:01 -0000 Scott Long wrote: > > 5.x uses an entirely different mechanism to make the CD bootable. The > mechanism used in 4.x is similar to what Microsoft used for the Windows > 95/98 CD's (Emulated El-Torito), while 5.x uses a similar mechanism as > Windows 2000/XP (Non-Emulated El-Torito). Since Microsoft only requires > support for the second method in order to award the MS logo, I suspect > that support for the first method is starting to die out in mainstream > BIOSes. Some possibly relevant/confirming data points: 1) My Win98 CD fails to boot on my new machine. 2) My Win98SE CD boots correctly. 3) My WinXP CD boots correctly. This could prove very inconvenient for a lot of people who are now buying new machines and hope to run FreeBSD 4.9 because it has better support for modern motherboard devices. I tested 4.9-prerelease support for all of my motherboard devices, but it never occurred to me to test the CD bootstrap. Dan Strick strick@covad.net